[91485] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol] maH?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Dec 28 12:38:47 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:38:33 -0600
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W5199F04429AACD03D00E10A1AC0@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Josh Badgley:
> There's a few typos I noticed, mainly with the pIqaD, also Ferenginar
> is now apparently <<verenganar>>.=A0 =
Thanks for telling us, but this correction was discovered and discussed las=
t week.
> nav Huch vInuD 'ej ngoD Daj vItu'. wa'maH QaS nav <<maH>> ghItlhlu'.
> =
> I thought maH was the number forming element and wa'maH meant ten. So
> maH can be used alone?
That's probably a typo. I imagine someone at the press just looked up "ten=
" in TKD.
By coincidence, something similar is in the {paq'batlh} where the phrase {S=
aD law'} "thousands" occurs (p. 170-71) but without any plural suffix. We =
now may have a way to say "tens", "hundreds", "millions", etc. Has anyone =
seen other examples in the {paq'batlh}?
> So is this maH thing a typo or has
> this always been acceptable and I just never noticed it?
AFAIK this is the first time Okrand has used it with {-mey}, though I think=
it's been used on the list and in fandom. =
He has used these "number forming elements" separately before:
HQ 8.3 (p.3): With longer time periods, such as a century ({vatlh DIS poH}=
), millennium ({SaD DIS poH}), or a period of 10,000 years (myriad, perhaps=
) ({netlh DIS poH}), the words {ret} or {pIq} may be used in place of {poH}=
, e.g., {cha' vatlh DIS poH} "two centuries", but {cha' vatlh DIS ret} "two=
centuries ago". The phrase {cha' vatlh ben} would mean "200 years ago". Th=
e choice of construction depends on what is being emphasized: in this case,=
the total number of centuries (two) or the total number of years (200).
Okrand has written larger numbers sometimes as one word {cha'vatlh} and som=
etimes as two {cha' vatlh} over the years.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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