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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] The Dhammapada: A Klingon Translation, verses 1-2
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Terrence Donnelly)
Tue Dec 20 13:03:22 2011
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 10:02:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>
To: KLI <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <SNT106-W36873B6D8CA27BD0CDA0E6A1A40@phx.gbl>
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Wow, neat idea. I'm too lazy to comment on the grammar, but I really like t=
his project. How long is the Dhammapada? You should find out how 'ISqu' got=
the Tao Te Ching published, and do the same.
-- ter'eS
--- On Tue, 12/20/11, Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com> wrote:
From: Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] The Dhammapada: A Klingon Translation, verses 1-2
To: "KLI" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 10:20 AM
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AjIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He (The Dhammapada) vImughchoHpu'. qup He (=
Theravada) vIpabmo' potlhqu' paqHomvam 'e' vIHar.=A0 naDev cha' tlheghmey (=
verses?) tu'lu'.=20
The English translations are mine.=A0 I have done my very best to translate=
the original Pali into Klingon and then to provide some English so that, i=
n the likely event my Klingon stinks, those of you who are more skillled wi=
ll know what I was trying to say and can help me out, if you are willing to=
do so.=A0 I am very serious about this project and would like to complete =
a full version.=A0 I wanted to thank=20
'ISqu' for her excellent edition of the Tao Te Ching, which I am reading ri=
ght now and without which I would be hopelessly lost. I have nicked the ter=
m jIvHa'wI' from her and am using it for "Buddha". Even though "Dhammapada"=
really means something like "Path of Dhamma", I am calling it "The Buddha'=
s Path of Wisdom" or jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He
Chapter=0A1=0APairs=0A
=0A=0A'ay'=0Awa' =0A=0Achang'engmey=0A
=0A=0A1=0A
=0A=0Ayab wanI'mey nung yab,=0Ache' yab,=0AchenmoH yab.=0AqaltaHvIS yab bIj=
atlhchugh=0Aqoj bIvangchugh,=0Avaj bep Dutlha'=0Arur tangqa' qam tlha'bogh=
=0Arutlh'e'=0A
=0A=0AMind precedes mental=0Aphenomena,=0AMind rules them, mind=0Acreates t=
hem.=0AIf you speak or act while=0Athe mind is corrupted=0AThen agony follo=
ws you=0ALike the wheel that=0Afollows the foot of the ox=0A
=0A=0A2=0A
=0A=0Ayab wanI'mey nung yab,=0Ache' yab,=0AchenmoH yab.=0AwovtaHvIS yab bIj=
atlhchugh=0Aqoj bIvangchugh,=0Avaj Qapla' Dutlha'=0Arur mejbe'bogh QIb=0A
=0A=0AMind precedes mental=0Aphenomena,=0AMind rules them, mind=0Acreates t=
hem.=0AIf you speak or act while=0Athe mind is bright,=0AThen success follo=
ws you=0ALike a shadow that does=0Anot depart.=0A
=0A
-- jhb
=09=09 =09 =09=09 =0A
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Wow, neat idea. I'm too lazy to comment on th=
e grammar, but I really like this project. How long is the Dhammapada? You =
should find out how 'ISqu' got the Tao Te Ching published, and do the same.=
<br><br>-- ter'eS<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 12/20/11, Josh Badgley <i><joshb=
adgley@hotmail.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: =
2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From:=
Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com><br>Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] Th=
e Dhammapada: A Klingon Translation, verses 1-2<br>To: "KLI" <tlhingan-h=
ol@kli.org><br>Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 10:20 AM<br><br><div id=
=3D"yiv598898820">=0A=0A<style><!--=0A#yiv598898820 .yiv598898820hmmessage =
P=0A{=0Amargin:0px;padding:0px;}=0A#yiv598898820 body.yiv598898820hmmessage=
=0A{=0Afont-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}=0A--></style>=0A<div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=0A=0A<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D""=
face=3D"Courier New">jIvHa'wI' Sov'a' He (The Dhammapada) vImughchoHpu'. q=
up He (Theravada) vIpabmo' potlhqu' paqHomvam 'e' vIHar. naDev cha' t=
lheghmey (verses?) tu'lu'. </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br=
></font></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D""=
face=3D"Courier New"><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=
=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">The English translations ar=
e mine. I have done my very best to translate the original Pali into =
Klingon and then to provide some English so that, in the likely event my Kl=
ingon stinks, those of you who are more skillled will know what I was tryin=
g to say and can help me out, if you are willing to do so. I am very =
serious about this project and would like to complete a full version. =
I wanted to thank </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font>=
</p><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier
New">'ISqu' for her excellent edition of the Tao Te Ching, which I am read=
ing right now and without which I would be hopelessly lost. I have nicked t=
he term </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">jIvHa'wI'<i> </i></fon=
t><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">from her and am using it for "Buddh=
a". </font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">Even though "Dhammapada" r=
eally means something like "Path of Dhamma", I am calling it "The Buddha's =
Path of Wisdom</font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">" or jIvHa'wI' S=
ov'a' He</font><b><br></b><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br>Chapter=
=0A1</font><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=
=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">P=
airs</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"=
2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" ali=
gn=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New"=
><br></font><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2">=0A</font></p><div a=
lign=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier Ne=
w">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">'ay'=0Awa' </font>=
=0A</p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"l=
eft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">chang'=
engmey</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=
=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;"=
align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier =
New"><br></font><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2">=0A</font></p><d=
iv align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courie=
r New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font=
style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">1</font></p><div=
align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier =
New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font><font s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2">=0A</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font=
style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div>=
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10p=
t;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">yab wanI'mey nung yab,</font></p><div a=
lign=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier Ne=
w">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">che' yab,</font></p>=
<div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Cour=
ier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><fo=
nt style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">chenmoH yab.</=
font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" fac=
e=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"=
left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">qalta=
HvIS yab bIjatlhchugh=0Aqoj bIvangchugh,</font></p><div align=3D"left"><fon=
t style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div=
><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">vaj bep Dutlha'</font></p><div align=
=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=
=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">rur tangqa' qam tlha'b=
ogh=0Arutlh'e'</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;=
" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom=
:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Co=
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Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"=
><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">Mind prece=
des mental=0Aphenomena,</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-s=
ize:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"marg=
in-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" f=
ace=3D"Courier New">Mind rules them, mind=0Acreates them.</font></p><div al=
ign=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New=
">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font styl=
e=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">If you speak or act w=
hile=0Athe mind is corrupted</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D=
"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D=
"2" face=3D"Courier New">Then agony follows you</font></p><div align=3D"lef=
t"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</fon=
t></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-=
size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">Like the wheel that=0Afollows t=
he foot of the ox</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10=
pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bot=
tom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D=
"Courier New"><br></font><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2">=0A</fo=
nt></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"l=
eft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">2</fon=
t></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"l=
eft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New"><br></=
font><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2">=0A</font></p><div align=3D=
"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=0A<=
/font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">yab wanI'mey nung yab,</fon=
t></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=
=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"l=
eft"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">che' y=
ab,</font></p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2=
" face=3D"Courier New">=0A</font></div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" alig=
n=3D"left"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt;" size=3D"2" face=3D"Courier New">=
chenmoH yab.</font></p>=0A<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><f=
ont style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">wovtaHvIS yab bIjatlhchugh=0Aqoj bIvang=
chugh,</font></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in=
;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">vaj Qapla' Dutlha'<=
/font></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" alig=
n=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">rur mejbe'bogh QIb</font><=
/p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"le=
ft"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font>=0A</p><div align=3D"l=
eft">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D=
"" face=3D"Courier New">Mind precedes mental=0Aphenomena,</font></p><div al=
ign=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font =
style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">Mind rules them, mind=0Acreates them.</font=
></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"=
left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">If you speak or act while=0Athe=
mind is bright,</font></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-=
bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">Then succ=
ess follows you</font></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=3D"margin-b=
ottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New">Like a sha=
dow that does=0Anot depart.</font></p><div align=3D"left">=0A</div><p style=
=3D"margin-bottom:0in;" align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New=
"><br></font>=0A</p><div align=3D"left"><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier Ne=
w"><br></font><font style=3D"" face=3D"Courier New"><br></font></div><br><f=
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