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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] list of inherent plurals

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Wed Dec 7 09:35:40 2011

Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:35:22 -0500
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
In-Reply-To: <C305E6BD33E2654DAE1F8F403247B6A6031E4C6AA552@EVS02.ad.uchicago.edu>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org

On 12/7/2011 9:25 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:
>
> De'vID:
>>> How does one use {chuvmey} or {paSlogh}?  Do they take plural or
>>> singular prefixes?
>
> Other examples are {cha''etlh pe'wI'} "scissors" and {mIn QanwI'
> nguv} "sunglasses" from TalkNow!  Neither appeared in a sentence
> AFAIK.

These are plural English words describing a singular thing. The Klingon 
phrases are just as singular as the objects themselves. It's English 
that is odd here, not Klingon.

>>> I think you know what I meant: does a verb takes a plural or
>>> singular prefix when I use them with these nouns? :-p

jIqIDpu' neH.

> nuqDaq waqwIj vIlamHa'choHmoH Where can I get my shoes cleaned? TKD
>
> Note: {waqwIj} (singular) = "my shoes" (plural).  Unless this is an
> error for {waqmeywIj}, it's possible that here {waq} is behaving as a
> collective noun; after all, who gets only one shoe cleaned?

Since the plural suffix is (almost) always optional, there is no error 
here. There is also no question about what this means: whether you're 
getting one shoe cleaned or two, you're asking where to have it done, 
not detailing how many shoes you want cleaned.

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SuStel
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