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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] New to the language - word lists and use of
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qurgh lungqIj)
Wed Nov 30 16:16:40 2011
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From: qurgh lungqIj <qurgh@wizage.net>
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:15:53 -0500
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This is what I've tried to do with my http://hol.kag.org site. I wanted to
collect all the words into one giant database that was easily searchable
and (in the future) update-able by anyone. It will try and break down long
Klingon words into it's separate parts, but it has some bugs that I haven't
had time to squash yet. It also has a web service that allows other
applications to search it, but I haven't published that code anywhere yet
(although I'm using it in my webOS Klingon Dictionary applications). It
currently has all the new words up to the last few months as I'm still
working through adding them all. The new words page shows the 100 most
recent entries. It also supports searching in pIqaD as well as romanized
tlhIngan Hol.
qurgh
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <kandrey89@gmail.com>wrote:
> Why isn't there an open source Klingon Dictionary project?
>
> I am a Qt Programmer, it'd be easy to come up with a friendly GUI
> interface, the dictionary core code though would take some time to develop
> if you want to search Klingon words, english translations, approximations,
> etc, a backend DB would have to be embedded and probably a db file of
> Klingon words and translations maintained on the side.
>
> Sounds like a lot of people maintain their own versions, why not maintain
> a single dictionary. Based on popular agreement conflicting words could
> have different tags like cannon, new english, etc...
>
> Is it because there's no such existing project or because people like to
> maintain their own separate versions and don't want to share/etc?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Terrence Donnelly <
> terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Make that, "haven't updated it since 2005"
>>
>> -- ter'eS
>>
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 11/30/11, Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net
>> >* wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have a page of "Newest Words" on my site:
>> http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/klinewest.html . Of course, "newest" is
>> relative; I haven't updated this since 2002, and all of its content may be
>> found in other new word lists, for all I know.
>>
>> -- ter'eS
>>
>> --- On *Wed, 11/30/11, Noah Bogart <nbtheduke@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Did I miss any sources, products, or things of note?
>>
>>
>> ~'anan naHQun
>>
>>
>> The biggest one, as I see it, is Klingonska Akademien's (
>> http://klingonska.org) full klingon word database (
>> http://klingonska.org/dict/dict.zdb). It's been the single most helpful
>> resource outside of Voragh's (slowly shared) Annotated Klingon Dictionary.
>>
>> Also, for ease, I formatted and posted to reddit (
>> http://www.reddit.com/r/tlhInganHol/comments/metg3/klcp_500_words/) the
>> 500 Basic Words the Beginner's Grammarians need to know, as they're the
>> most basic and useful words in the Klingon Dictionary.
>>
>> Noah
>>
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This is what I've tried to do with my <a href=3D"http://hol.kag.org">ht=
tp://hol.kag.org</a> site. I wanted to collect all the words into one giant=
database that was easily searchable and (in the future) update-able by any=
one. It will try and break down long Klingon words into it's=C2=A0separ=
ate=C2=A0parts, but it has some bugs that I haven't had time to squash =
yet. It also has a web service that allows other applications to search it,=
but I haven't published that code anywhere yet (although I'm using=
it in my webOS Klingon Dictionary applications). It currently has all the =
new words up to the last few months as I'm still working through adding=
them all. The new words page shows the 100 most recent entries. It also su=
pports searching in pIqaD as well as romanized tlhIngan Hol.<div>
<br></div><div><div>qurgh<br><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, No=
v 30, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andrey Kuznetsov <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:kandrey89@gmail.com">kandrey89@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Why isn't there an open source Klingon Dictionary project?<div><br></di=
v><div>I am a Qt Programmer, it'd be easy to come up with a friendly GU=
I interface, the dictionary core code though would take some time to develo=
p if you want to search Klingon words, english translations, approximations=
, etc, a backend DB would have to be embedded and probably a db file of Kli=
ngon words and translations maintained on the side.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Sounds like a lot of people maintain their own versions=
, why not maintain a single dictionary. Based on popular agreement conflict=
ing words could have different tags like cannon, new english, etc...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Is it because there's no such existing project or b=
ecause people like to maintain their own separate versions and don't wa=
nt to share/etc?<div><div class=3D"h5"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Terrence Donnelly <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
href=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net" target=3D"_blank">terrence=
.donnelly@sbcglobal.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" b=
order=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"font:inherit">Make that,=
"haven't updated it since 2005"<br>
<br>-- ter'eS<div><div><br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 11/30/11, Terrence Donnel=
ly <i><<a href=3D"mailto:terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net" target=3D"_bla=
nk">terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net</a>></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote s=
tyle=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5=
px">
<br><div><table border=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0"><tbody><tr=
><td style=3D"font:inherit" valign=3D"top">I have a page of "Newest Wo=
rds" on my site: <a href=3D"http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/klinewest.html=
" target=3D"_blank">http://teresh.tdonnelly.org/klinewest.html</a> . Of cou=
rse, "newest" is relative; I haven't updated this since 2002,=
and all of its content may be found in other new word lists, for all I kno=
w.<br>
<br>-- ter'eS<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 11/30/11, Noah Bogart <i><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:nbtheduke@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nbtheduke@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,=
255);margin-left:5px;padding-left:5px">
<br><br><div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style=3D"font-family:Prelude,Verdana,san-s=
erif">Did I miss any sources, products, or things of note?<br>
<br><br>~'anan naHQun</span><span></span><br></blockquote><div><br>The =
biggest one, as I see it, is Klingonska Akademien's (<a rel=3D"nofollow=
" href=3D"http://klingonska.org" target=3D"_blank">http://klingonska.org</a=
>) full klingon word database (<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"http://klingonsk=
a.org/dict/dict.zdb" target=3D"_blank">http://klingonska.org/dict/dict.zdb<=
/a>). It's been the single most helpful resource outside of Voragh'=
s (slowly shared) Annotated Klingon Dictionary.<br>
<br>Also, for ease, I formatted and posted to reddit (<a rel=3D"nofollow" h=
ref=3D"http://www.reddit.com/r/tlhInganHol/comments/metg3/klcp_500_words/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.reddit.com/r/tlhInganHol/comments/metg3/klcp_5=
00_words/</a>) the 500 Basic Words the Beginner's Grammarians need to k=
now, as they're the most basic and useful words in the Klingon Dictiona=
ry.<br>
<br>Noah<br></div></div>
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