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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Mon Nov 28 09:45:45 2011

From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:45:34 +1000
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh: =

> How would I say, "Search for the targ in the forest", or "Search for =

> the record in the data banks"?
=A0
jIjangpu', jIjatlh: =

> Do you have a specific issue with {ngemDaq targh yInej} or {qawHaqDaq =

> ta yInej}? =


jatlhtaH De'vID:
> Also, what if I want to leave the search target unspecified?  e.g.,  =

> "Search (in) the forest", "Search (in) the data banks"? =


jang quljIb, jatlh:
> My instinct is to go with {ngem yInej} for "Search (in) the forest,"  =

> and {qawHaq nej} for "Search (in) the database."

{nej} has been used in canon and the object is always the thing being
searched for:





vInejqa' (TKD p.37)


"I am searching for him/her again"





jagh luHoHmeH jagh lunejtaH (TKD p.65)


"They are searching for the enemy in order to kill him/her"





'avwI' nejDI' narghta'bogh qama' reH 'avwI' Sambej =


(TKW p.200)


"When an escaped prisoner looks for a guard, he always finds one"



If I were to see {ngem yInej} and {qawHaq yInej}, I'd understand them
as "look for the forest" and "look for the databanks".

>"Search the catalogue for the book," I'd render {mem yInej 'ej paq
> botu'}.

Apart from the {nej}, I think you'd need {yI-} in the second part as
well. {botu'} there strikes me as odd considering the sense of the
English version.

QeS 'utlh
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