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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Mon Nov 28 09:37:27 2011

From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:37:11 +1000
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh: =

> How would I say, "Search for the targ in the forest", or "Search for =

> the record in the data banks"?  I presume the thing being searched for =

> ({targh}, {ta}) is the object of {nej}, but how do I indicate the =

> parameters of/restrictions on the search ({ngem}, {qawHaq})? =

=A0
jIjang, jIjatlh:
> Do you have a specific issue with {ngemDaq targh yInej} or {qawHaqDaq =

> ta yInej}? =


mujang De'vID, jatlh:
> I have no problem accepting {ngemDaq targh yInej}, but I wasn't sure  =

> about {qawHaqDaq}, or things like {tetlhDaq}, {memDaq}, {tameyDaq},  =

> etc.  If the parameters of the search is not a physical location, is  =

> {-Daq} still the right suffix to use? =


I'd say so. Qov recently reminded me of the proverb {wa' Dol nIvDaq
matay'DI' maQap} (from TKW), which uses {-Daq} in a rather abstract
sense that's not necessarily physical.

taH:
> Also, what if I want to leave the search target unspecified?  e.g.,  =

> "Search (in) the forest", "Search (in) the data banks"? =


You can just use the no-object prefixes for that: {ngemDaq yInej} and
{qawHaqDaq yInej}. (Or {penej}, of course.)

> Actually, "Search (the) database" was the idea I originally wanted to  =

> express, and I first wrote down {qawHaqDaq nej}, but then it seemed  =

> wrong to me when I looked at it. =


Perfectly fine, I think. I wouldn't've given it a second glance.

QeS 'utlh
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