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'e': my $.02
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU)
Thu May 20 06:25:22 1993
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From: Daniele Alberto Galliano <galliano@ercole.polito.it>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Thu, 20 May 93 11:16:03 +0200
I wish to add my opinion about the use of 'e', becasue I think to
have a different way to explain it.
I'm sorry I can't write it down in Klingon, because it will be too
long and complicated.
The key word in my idea is 'pronoun' in 6.2.5.
You know in all languages I know (Italian, English, Latin and
Greek) and a friend of mine adds French, a sentence used as object
in another one is not introduced with a pronoun, but with a
conjunction: che, that, que,...
The verb so introduced is infact modified: we call it modo
congiuntivo -- conjunctive mode (?).
Now we have to understand why we use those pronouns ('e' & net).
The reason, IMHO, is that Klingon has an attributive idea of verbs.
You know klingon adjectives are indeed verbs used to indicate a
modification of noun. I think they are assimilable to this form:
'IH puq = beautyful child = child being beautiful
I mean that it is quite a status of the noun, the being sometihng.
So the sentence jItlhutlh, I drink is just ellyptic, because it
means: jItlhutlh jIH = Here I am, drinking.
The subject is just saying it is, doing such and such. The
existence declaration is then dropped to short the phrasing, but
where it necessary or emphatic.
How does it come to 'e'?
Well, it refers to the subject, not to the sentence, so
bItlhutlh 'e' jISov = I know you drink = I aknowledge you exist,
drinking.
It seems to me a better way to see the whole thing.
Now shoot at me as you wish.
vIqawlu'
I am very interested in HolQeD: would you please send to me all
your articles, and how to get the whole?
Cmdr. Daniel Albert FENDER ---- Daniele Alberto GALLIANO
Chief Sc. Off. U.S.S. Xavier ---- galliano@athena.polito.it
