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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Use of -'e' with relative clauses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (De'vID jonpIn)
Fri Nov 18 12:46:54 2011
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:46:36 +0100
From: "De'vID jonpIn" <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Voragh:
> To get the discussion started, here are the examples I have with {-'e'}
> used (or not used!) as a disambiguator in relative clauses:
>
> loghDaq Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu' chaH Hoch SuvwI'pu''e'
> In space, all warriors are cold warriors ("warriors who are ready to
> fight"). TKW
>
> butlh ghajbogh nuv*'e'* yIHo'
> Admire the person with dirt under his fingernails.TKW
>
> nobmey qembogh yIrIDnganpu'*'e'* yIvoqQo'
> Don't trust Yridians who bring gifts. TKW
>
> Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu'*'e'* yIvoqQo'
> Don't trust Ferengi who give back money. TKW
>
> tajwIj 'oHbe' chorlIj jeqbogh Dochvetlh*'e'*
> That is not my dagger protruding from your midsection. FTG
>
> yIntaHvIS qeylIS*'e'* lIjlaHbe'bogh vay' batlh 'etlhvam chenmoHlu'pu'
> this sword of honor descends from the time of Kahless the Unforgettable. S8
>
> qorDu'Daj tuq 'oS Ha'quj*'e'* tuQbogh wo'rIv
> The sash that Worf wears is a symbol of his family's house. S20
It seems that in every example you posted, <-'e'> acted as
the disambiguator in a relative clause. The only one of your sentences
without it is the first one, where <Suv> in <Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu'> has no
object.
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Voragh:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">To ge=
t the discussion started, here are the examples I have with {-'e'} =
used (or not used!) as a disambiguator in relative clauses:<br>
<br>
loghDaq Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu' chaH Hoch SuvwI'pu''e'=
<br>
In space, all warriors are cold warriors ("warriors who are ready to f=
ight"). TKW<br>
<br>
butlh ghajbogh nuv<b>'e'</b> yIHo'<br>
Admire the person with dirt under his fingernails.TKW<br>
<br>
nobmey qembogh yIrIDnganpu'<b>'e'</b> yIvoqQo'<br>
Don't trust Yridians who bring gifts. TKW<br>
<br>
Huch nobHa'bogh verenganpu'<b>'e'</b> yIvoqQo'<br>
Don't trust Ferengi who give back money. TKW<br>
<br>
tajwIj 'oHbe' chorlIj jeqbogh Dochvetlh<b>'e'</b><br>
That is not my dagger protruding from your midsection. FTG<br>
<br>
yIntaHvIS qeylIS<b>'e'</b> lIjlaHbe'bogh vay' batlh 'et=
lhvam chenmoHlu'pu'<br>
this sword of honor descends from the time of Kahless the Unforgettable. S8=
<br>
<br>
qorDu'Daj tuq 'oS Ha'quj<b>'e'</b> tuQbogh wo'rIv<b=
r>
The sash that Worf wears is a symbol of his family's house. S20</blockq=
uote><div><br></div><div>It seems that in every example you posted, <-&#=
39;e'> acted as the=A0disambiguator in a relative clause. =A0The onl=
y one of your sentences without it is the first one, where <Suv> in &=
lt;Suvrupbogh SuvwI'pu'> has no object.</div>
<div>=A0</div></div>-- <br>De'vID<br>
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