[90692] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Nov 15 09:39:19 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:39:00 -0600
In-Reply-To: <4EC262F0.4090501@web.de>
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De'vID:
>> <Soj> refers not just to food, but anything consumed for sustenance
>> (i.e., "food" in a more general sense than "solid food")
This was more of a reminder, really, as humans (at east, English-speaking humans) tend to consider food and drink separately. Klingons do not:
KGT 83: The term for food of any kind (including beverages) is {Soj}.
KGT 94: There is no known noun referring to drinks in general (though, as noted above, beverages are considered a type of {Soj} [food]). Any alcoholic beverage is called {HIq}.
i.e. refreshment, sustenance, rations, etc. I can imagine a sign {naDevvo' pagh Soj!} "No food or beverages allowed beyond this point!" (We have such signs posted all over the library where I work.)
Lieven:
> Talking about food, no new word, but an interesting explanation:
>
> I asked if there were a word for "satisfied", "I'm full", i.e. you had
> eaten enough.
>
> MO said no, but accepted {ghungHa'} for "not hungry any more". You
> cannot use it though to say that you are not hungry, that should be
> {ghungbe'} "not hungry". But if you are hungry first, then you eat
> enough, then you can say {DaH jIghungHa'} "Now I am un-hungry." (="not
> hungry any more")
>
> It also works with {'oj} the same way.
{ghungHa'} has been used on the List in this sense before. I have it tagged "trI'Qal" in my notes (ex-List grammarian T'rkal, i.e. Duffy Dopplebower). It's always nice to have our grammarians' Sprachgefuehl confirmed.
I wonder if you can apply this use of {-Ha'} to other verbs of sensation. E.g. {Doy'} "be tired" vs. ?{Doy'Ha'} "be refreshed" (e.g. after a brief nap {Dum})?
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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