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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Number of possible syllables
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Tue Nov 8 13:04:56 2011
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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:03:25 +0100
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
To: "ghunchu'wI' 'utlh" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Cc: tlhIngan Hol email discussion forum <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
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Ouch. Okay, that was embarassing. That changes the numbers indeed. There
are of course 5 vowels, and thus 21 consonants only. Thanks for pointing it
out.
So I'm correcting my numbers. The explanation will stay more or less the
same...
CV =3D 21x5 =3D 105
CVC =3D 21x5x21 minus the 21x2 impossible *Cow/*Cuw combinations from
assumption 1) =3D 2,163
CVw' =3D 21x1 =3D 21
CVy' =3D 21x4 =3D 84
CVrgh =3D 21x5 =3D 105
If I don't have any more embarassing mistakes in my assumptions or
calculations, that sums up to 2,478 possible syllables in Klingon (not
counting the special case of {-oy} in, where we don't know (or do we?) if
resyllabification takes place.
I hope I'm not being ignored now for my stupid mistake (or for being a
linguist and a Klingonist, for that matter) and you could tell me what you
think.
Thanks.
- Andr=C3=A9
2011/11/8 ghunchu'wI' 'utlh <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller <esperantist@gmai=
l.com>
> wrote:
> > Everyone will agree that there are 22 consonants (C) and 4 vowels (V) i=
n
> Klingon.
>
> Count them again and start over.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Ouch. Okay, that was embarassing. That changes the numbers=
indeed. There are of course 5 vowels, and thus 21 consonants only. Thanks =
for pointing it out.<br><br>So I'm correcting my numbers. The explanati=
on will stay more or less the same...<br>
<br>CV =3D 21x5 =3D 105<br>CVC =3D 21x5x21 minus the 21x2 impossible *Cow/*=
Cuw combinations from assumption 1) =3D 2,163<br>CVw' =3D 21x1 =3D 21<b=
r>CVy' =3D 21x4 =3D 84<br>CVrgh =3D 21x5 =3D 105<br><br>If I don't =
have any more embarassing mistakes in my assumptions or calculations, that =
sums up to 2,478 possible syllables in Klingon (not counting the special ca=
se of {-oy} in, where we don't know (or do we?) if resyllabification ta=
kes place.<br>
<br>I hope I'm not being ignored now for my stupid mistake (or for bein=
g a linguist and a Klingonist, for that matter) and you could tell me what =
you think.<br><br>Thanks.<br>- Andr=C3=A9<br><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote">
2011/11/8 ghunchu'wI' 'utlh <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:qunchuy@alcaco.net">qunchuy@alcaco.net</a>></span><br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex;">
<div class=3D"im">On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Andr=C3=A9 M=C3=BCller &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:esperantist@gmail.com">esperantist@gmail.com</a>> w=
rote:<br>
> Everyone will agree that there are 22 consonants (C) and 4 vowels (V) =
in Klingon.<br>
<br>
</div>Count them again and start over.<br>
<br>
-- ghunchu'wI'<br>
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