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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Words - First Words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Nov 8 10:48:38 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 09:48:23 -0600
In-Reply-To: <CAMZYS2Xw_mkCRBtH_mCq+mbDhcQVk9spp0vAs8SeB0haaZ7m+w@mail.gmail.com>
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'anan naHQun:
>> car - puH Duj
>> airplane - muD Duj
>> train - lupwI' mIr
>> ship - bIQ Duj
>
> In the novel "Left Hand of Destiny"; it's stated that while most
> civilizations make cars -> airplanes -> spaceships; the Klingons
> did not. The Hur'q invaded before the Klingons invented cars.
> After the Hur'q left; the Klingons aimed for the stars; skipped
> over cars and went straight to airplanes and then spaceships.
>
> Cars were invented later.
>
> So it's perfectly possible that the word for "spaceship" came first
> and then became accepted to refer to "cars" as well...
I vaguely remember Okrand saying somewhere that the Klingons have sea-faring tradition, but I can't find that reference. The closest I could find is this:
KGT 16: The Klingon Homeworld {Qo'noS}, usually rendered Kronos in Federation Standard, is a planet with basically one very large mass of land surrounded by ocean; perhaps "continent" is a comparable concept.
In any event, he did speculate briefly on {Duj} and {Do'}:
TKD 20: The syllable {'ej} also occurs in {'ejyo'} "Starfleet". There are, however, no known Klingon words {'ej}, {Do'}, or {yo'} that have anything to do with Starfleet, starships, the Federation, or space vehicles of any kind. It is quite likely that {Do'} is an Old Klingon word for space vessel (the modern Klingon word is {Duj}) that is used nowhere except in the noun {'ejDo'} ["starship"]. Of course, without further study, that remains pure conjecture.
Hmm... I wonder if {'ej}, {Do'} and {yo'} could be borrowed Hur'q words referring to space travel? Is it a coincidence that {'ejyo'} refers to another space-related organization of alien species?
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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