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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jaw

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Thu Nov 3 11:11:12 2011

From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: Noah Bogart <nbtheduke@gmail.com>, "tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org"
 <tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org>
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 15:10:38 +0000
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The classic formula is something like: mujang, jatlh, jIH HInob.
http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=3D1998-12-holqed-07-4.txt&get=3Dso=
urce

However, both tlhob and jang are actually used this way in Power Klingon.


HM: <They ask him: "Can we get to the Great Hall from here?">
MO: {lutlhob; "naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'?"}

HM: <The guard answers: "If the bugs do not bite you.">
MO: {jang 'avwI'; "lIchopbe'chugh ghewmey."}

________________________________
From: Noah Bogart [nbtheduke@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 15:52
To: tlhingan-hol@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jaw

> Note that "verbs of speech" doesn't mean it can be used with the special =
sentence-as-object construction for direct quotation. Only {ja'} and {jatlh=
} can do that, so far as we know. Okrand listed these once somewhere.

What do you mean?

He said, "Give it to me." =3D jIH HInob mujatlh
He said, "Give it to me." =3D #jIH HInob mujang#

Like that?


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10pt;">The classic formula is something like: mujang, jatlh, jIH HInob.<br>
<a href=3D"http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?file=3D1998-12-holqed-07-4.t=
xt&amp;get=3Dsource" target=3D"_blank">http://klingonska.org/canon/search/?=
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However, both tlhob and jang are actually used this way in Power Klingon.<b=
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<pre>HM: &lt;They ask him: &quot;Can we get to the Great Hall from here?&qu=
ot;&gt;=0A=
MO: {lutlhob; &quot;naDevvo' vaS'a'Daq majaHlaH'a'?&quot;}=0A=
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HM: &lt;The guard answers: &quot;If the bugs do not bite you.&quot;&gt;=0A=
MO: {jang 'avwI'; &quot;lIchopbe'chugh ghewmey.&quot;}</pre>
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<div>&gt; Note that &quot;verbs of speech&quot; doesn't mean it can be used=
 with the special sentence-as-object construction for direct quotation. Onl=
y {ja'} and {jatlh} can do that, so far as we know. Okrand listed these onc=
e somewhere.<br>
<br>
What do you mean? <br>
<br>
He said, &quot;Give it to me.&quot; =3D jIH HInob mujatlh<br>
He said, &quot;Give it to me.&quot; =3D #jIH HInob mujang#<br>
<br>
Like that?<br>
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