[90108] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: [Tlhingan-hol]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Oct 17 11:57:38 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org" <tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 10:48:44 -0500
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W218D95724FCBAE80C07E2AAAE40@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: tlhingan-hol-bounces@stodi.digitalkingdom.org
jatlh Qov:
>>> pegh, 'a pochtaHvIS lubej Sung puS.
QeS:
>> I'm not saying the usage is wrong, but to me 'op Sung would be
>> better than Sung puS here.
Felix:
> It fels a bit wrong to me, as well, but there is a canonical usage
> where *puS* seems to be used like "some":
> pIpyuS pach DaSop DaneHchugh pIpyuS puS DaghornIS
> "If you want to eat pipius claw, you'll have to break
> a few pipiuses." [TKW]
IIRC the TKW example preceeded the revelation of {'op} in SkyBox Card 7, which is the only example of {'op} known AFAIK.
QeS:
>> Very true - well spotted.
{'op} "some, an unknown or unspecified quantity" (n.) in canon:
'ej DujvamDaq 'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh po' law' tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' law' po' puS
It [IKC Pagh] has... some of the finest warriors in the Klingon fleet. (S7)
{puS} "be few, be several, be a handful" (v.) in canon:
pIpyuS pach DaSop DaneHchugh pIpyuS puS DaghornIS
If you want to eat pipius claw, you'll have to break a few pipiuses. (TKW)
Notice that the S7 example contains both a {law'/puS} formula as well as {law'} used "adjectivally" WITHIN that formula: {tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' law'}!
qagh, ro'qegh'Iwchab, targh tIq Sop 'e' lungIl Humanpu' puS
Few humans dare to eat gagh, rokeg blood pie, or heart of targ. (S21)
I would think that *{'op Human} would also work here.
We also have a new example of {puS} from the Klingon Monopoly game:
veymey puS neH chenmoHlu'pu'
Limited Edition
("Only a few copies have been made.") (Monopoly)
As someone who regularly deals with limited editions in his work, this implies a known number of {veymey} - at least to the publisher - even if that number isn't actually stated.
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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