[89682] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: 'oghwI' lut
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Seruq)
Tue Sep 13 23:39:56 2011
From: "Seruq" <seruq@bellsouth.net>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 22:33:54 -0500
In-reply-to: <6.2.5.6.2.20110912101034.048f52c0@flyingstart.ca>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> > > ><<HuS, pa'wIjDaq jIjaH! HItlhej!>> ra' Qel.
> > >
> > > In a complex set of rules that I myself get wrong, pa'Daq jIjaH
> > > means I am already inside the room and the motion takes
> place inside it.
> > > pa'wIj vIjaH is the meaning you want.
> > >
> > >
> >Actually we have a canon phrase that states the opposite:
> >{pa'Daq yIjaH!} means "Go to the room!", TKD, p. 27 I guess, this
> >sentence is ambiguous and can *also* mean "Go inside the room!", but
> >it's probably context-sensitive.
> >
> >Then again, we have another sentence:
> >{bIghHa' yIjaH!}, meaning "Go to jail!", from the Monopoly game.
> >
> >So it seems {jaH} may or may not use the {-Daq} suffix, perhaps it's
> >added for clarification.
>
> Yes, the HolQeD 7:4 interview makes it clear that that -Daq
> is unnecessary but not wrong.
More specifically, this also involves the prefix.
DujDaq jIjaH - I am on the ship, going (somewhere).
DujDaq vIjaH - I am going to the ship.
Duj vIjaH - I am going to the ship.
DloraH
