[89623] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: 'oghwI' lut
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?=)
Mon Sep 12 12:58:38 2011
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:53:09 +0200
From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIE3DvGxsZXI=?= <esperantist@gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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2011/9/12 Josh Badgley <joshbadgley@hotmail.com>
> I appreciate the time you took to review my story. I can clearly see my
> mistakes. Especially with using lu- on a subject that is grammatically
> singular but refers to a group of people. I think the problem is I keep
> forgetting that 0- is actually a prefix...it's not visible or audible, but
> it's still there. So I now understand that it's correct to say:
>
>
Right, these invisible and inaudible affixes are usually called null
morphemes or sometimes zero morphemes. Many natural languages have them.
I always had issues with the word qorDu' (family). Is it grammatically
singular or plural? Is it regarded as "capable of using speech" or not?
I just found we have a sentence:
qaStaHvIS wa'maH puq poHmey, wo'rIv betleH ghaj qorDu'Daj.
Worf's bat'leth has been in his family for ten generations.
So qorDu' seems to act as a singular noun in syntax, otherwise it'd have to
have been lughaj.
But would it be qorDu'wI' or qorDu'wIj, I wonder... I only have possessed
examples with -Daj, which doesn't show this capable-of-speech difference
(there's no *-Da' as we might expect [maybe there was one in Proto-Klingon,
hmm])...
Do we have any information on how to use words such as "family"? Maybe I've
overlooked a canon sentence; or maybe there's a similar word were we know
this?
