[89570] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'maH
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Sun Sep 11 00:25:40 2011
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:13:17 -0700
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
In-Reply-To: <BAY166-W120584C524772600BCB271AA030@phx.gbl>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
At 18:11 10/09/2011, you wrote:
> > ghobtaHvIS 'eSSIm Mahoun je, jol Qoylu' ghIq poSchoH lojmIt. 'el
> > QeDpIn, De'wI' qengtaHvIS. lul leghDI'
>
>lul *'e'* leghDI'.
>
>wot {lul} Dalo'mo' jIbelqu'. puS wotvetlh lo'meH 'ebmey!
qechvetlh wot vIwIvnIStaHvIS jImIm. lul'a'? tlhaS'a'? cha'logh vIchoH.
> > Mahoun roDaq ghopDu' lan ghIq yuv.
>
>chaq {'ej} neH Dalo'nIS. naDev {ghIq} Dalo'chugh, lanpu'ghach yuvpu'ghach
>je chevlaw' poH. ghopDu' lanlu'pu'DI' SIbI' yuvlu', qar'a'?
HIja', 'ach yuvlaHpa' lannIS.
> > tlhIngan HughDaq ratlh ghopDu' 'a' 'uybe'.
>
>{'a}Daq 'Iq qaghwI'vetlh cha'DIch.
va. jIghIH 'e' vImuS. QaghmeywIj DaSammo' jIbel.
> > Dogh ghu' 'e' tlhoj Mahoun. rovo' DeSDu'Daq ghopDu'Daj vIH tlhIngan
>
>wa' DIp neH lo' {vIH}; 'ut {vIHmoH}. ("Interview with Marc Okrand", HolQeD
>7:4)
Daj. jatlh/ja' je qel je. 'ej ghoS, 'el je. jIHvaD potlh. ghItlhwIj
vItI'nISbej.
> > "yajHa'ghachHey," jatlh Mahoun 'ej QamchoH.
>
>Hm. The -ghach here sounds like an English calque. You could achieve the
>same thing by saying mayajHa'chuqlaw'pu'. bIQoch'a'?
bIlugh. qaq.
> > vajar Mahoun je cha' 'ach vangpu'pa' mughwI' vajar qonlu' 'ej
> > vangpu'DI' mughwI'
>
>Because you've just talked about the point before the translator began
>working, vang*choH*pu'DI' might make a more obvious contrast. But it's not
>necessary at all, just a stylistic thing. DapollaH pagh DapolHa'laH.
vIpol.
> > bomvaD Huch DIlnIS Del ta.
>
>{bomvaD Huch DIlnIS*bogh* Del ta} bIjatlh DaneH'a'?
bIlugh. chaq ramjep ghItlhwIj vIqarnISbe'moH. jItuH 'ach ... pIpyuS
pach DaSop DaneHchugh, pIpyuS puS DaghornIS.
- Qov
