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Re: mu'mey chu': jul

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Fri Sep 9 12:13:59 2011

From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 02:06:10 +1000
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ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh:
> chay' qIDna' 'oH 'e' DaSovlaw'?
>
> (A bit rusty… someone remind me if the <chay'> should go between the <'oH>
> and the <'e'>.)

Heh. Qov and I have been chucking variations of this question at each other
for at least a few lut 'ay'Hommey.

TKD (section 5.4) states that adverbs "usually come at the beginning of the
sentence". A strictly literal interpretation would have chay' where you do.
Personally I see it more liberally and put adverbs at the beginning of the
*clause* they modify, which has some canon support:

bImejDI' reH betleHlIj yItlhap.
Never leave without your bat'telh. (TKW)

janmey ngo' lulo'lu'DI' pIj jabbI'ID nISpu' woj.
Older models [of communicator] were susceptible to radiation. (S19)

and at any rate it gives you more scope to do it this way; then you can make
a distinction between SIbI' baHnIS 'e' tlhoj HoD "the captain realised that
he needed to fire immediately" and baHnIS SIbI' 'e' tlhoj HoD "the captain
immediately realised that he needed to fire".

Short answer: in yours, I'd put chay' in between 'oH and 'e'.

QeS 'utlh
 		 	   		  



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