[89525] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Wishlist (Was: RE: chIjwI' tIQ bom: 'ay' wej)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Thu Sep 8 23:27:22 2011
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:21:19 +1000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20110908161450.04feb940@flyingstart.ca>
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ghItlhpu' Qov, jatlh:
> We didn't have a wishlist session at qep'a' this year.
Actually, we did; I thought it was one of the first things we did, the
first morning of qep'a'. We must have finished before you arrived (did
you come in partway through qaDHom wa'?). Do'Ha'qu'!
I don't remember everyone's requests, though "to edit" and terms for
metals, specifically silver and gold IIRC, were some. My main ones
were "to dig", some more terms for elements, and some vocabulary for
traces, physical signs, signals, or evidence left behind by something.
Things like footprints, fingerprints, trails and spoor, and even ion
or warp engine trails are hard to talk about in Klingon. yInroH "life
signs" is about the only word of that type we have.
ghItlhpu' Felix, jatlh:
> Swim
Considering the Klingon aversion to water in most of its forms, I
doubt we're going to see a verb "to swim", whether for transport or
for recreation. For transport I've always been able to make do with
bIQDaq leng, jaH or vegh. For recreation, I've heard HaH'egh used and
it seems to work fine.
taH:
> Bacteria
> Virus
For both I tend to use rop yagh or rop yaghHom. I know bacteria are
not all ropmoHwI', but meh.
Felix:
> Mammal
Qov:
> nIm lIngbogh Ha'DIbaH
pup.
Felix:
>dialect
Qov:
> I would be amazed if that were not Sep Hol
If, indeed, one even needs Sep. I'd instantly get what was intended
if someone were to say Sa'Qej Hol. And doesn't the phrase ta' Hol
imply a sense of "dialect", since the Emperor is presumably always
going to be a speaker of some dialect or another of Klingon?
Felix:
> Future/Present/Past
Though I didn't specifically add this to the qep'a' wishlist, I did
raise them at the wishlist session - future and past, at least. A
recent project of mine (now completed) has been to provide Klingon
subtitles to "First Contact"; since it's a time travel story there's
a lot of future and past in it. For example, Picard says about the
Borg assimilation of Earth, "They must have done it in the past." I
had to use ret as a bare time stamp (ret lurInmoHlaw'), and I think
it works in context, but there may be a better solution.
Felix:
> Transparent/Opaque
Qov:
> Yes, we can't do much better than Qorwagh rur and reD rur.
What about 'otlh bot and 'otlh botbe'?
Felix:
> Ball
Qov:
> I can make do with moQ.
Me too. I've never seen a context where the difference is crucial.
Felix:
> Movie / TV show
For "First Contact" I just used much "presentation"; I don't think
we need to get much more specific.
QeS 'utlh
