[89521] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Wishlist (Was: RE: chIjwI' tIQ bom: 'ay' wej)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Thu Sep 8 19:50:15 2011
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2011 16:39:00 -0700
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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Lot of overlap of course, which verifies our
wants. We didn't have a wishlist session at
qep'a' this year. I guess we usually do it before
Marc arrives, and he was there at the beginning.
>Island
qechvetlhvaD ghaytan puHHom vIyaj.
>Surface
Yes. I used yor for the surface of a lake recently, but am not happy with it.
>Biological:
>Flower
perhaps Qo'noS is like Hawaii with no native flowering plants.
>Bacteria
>Virus
>Mushroom/Fungus
You think a Klingon gunner knows the difference? rop ghew, ngej, rop.
>Mammal
nIm lIngbogh Ha'DIbaH
>Language-related:
>dialect
I would be amazed if that were not Sep Hol
>question (ghelmeH mu'tlhegh?)
That works fine.
>consonant
That'd be nice. It would be cool if the word for
the consonant were the last two letters of the
name of every consonant, preceded by a qaghwI'.
(I'm not writing it out because I remember 'I'.
>Other:
>Future/Present/Past
Hmm. give me an example of a sentence where you
would want "present" as opposed to DaH.
>Transparent/Opaque
Yes, we can't do much better than Qorwagh rur and reD rur.
>to be probable, "There's an X% probability that"
Wait until you see the convolutions I went
through to describe oscillatory angles. Pro-tip"
when hinging your plot around a piece of
technology, make sure it can be easily understood in Klingon.
>Feel, experience (emotion, sensation; nIbpoH,
>parmaq...) (we currently have DuQ)
Hmm. That one doesn't bother me often, and I write a lot of emotional scenes.
>Straightforwardness
I never use that in English.
>Ball
I can make do with moQ.
>Movie / TV show
Ugh. This is the only one of yours that I would
say no, there shouldn't be a word for this. In
context much works, and I don't want Klingon to
start having words for all the Terran things.
It's like when remote islands get hotels and tourist shops.
>Road (He?)
Yeah, it would be nice to have a distinction
between a course and an actual constructed road.
>Vehicle (surely, Klingons don't call ALL their vehicles Dujmey?)
But they might not have a generic term at
all! The Russians were confused and baffled when
we tried to call all road-based large public
transit "bus" they had different sorts and they
had different names and if there was a generic
term it was not something everyday people knew or
understood. I would like that.
>Loud(ly), quiet(ly)
I can live with tam and chuS.
>Hole (we have qung; uncertain if that's just for instruments)
Pretty sure it is.
>elementary particle, atom, molecule
>to be positively/negatively charged
Again, matlh doesn't strike me as much of a
physicist. I'm surprised he doesn't know the words for genitalia, though.
>________________________________________
>From: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
>[tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org] on behalf of Robyn Stewart [robyn@flyingstart.ca]
>Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 00:07
>To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
>Subject: Wishlist (Was: RE: chIjwI' tIQ bom: 'ay' wej)
>
>At 13:54 08/09/2011, lab Felix:
> >Water-related terms and textile-related
> >ones... ...high on my list of desired new canon!
>
>Here's my current wishlist, accumulated from
>writing nuq bop bom. There are a lot of water-related wishes on it:
>
>logic, deduction - when meq isn't specific enough
>
>shapes and solids: triangle, cone, cylinder (have meyrI', gho, ngogh)
>
>imagine, make up, conceive, as distinct from lying
>
>some means of describing the concepts and products of defecation & urination
>
>swim animals do it even if Klingons don't
>pressure i.e. atmospheric, water pressure
>drift, float whatever you do in logh or bIQ without propulsion
>fluid/liquid for liquids that aren't water.
>alcohol, acid or solutions. I've been using taS for "fluid" but you know.
>fluid mechanics: flow/trickle/spurt - we have nIj
>
>a noun for dream
>
>words to describe sounds not so much
>onamatapoeia as a word or two meaning “made a
>sound” of various sorts, like “clicked” or
>“beeped” or "moaned" to improve on “chuS” “vIng” or “wab lIng”,
>
>future - is there no way other than tugh or
>specifics like nem to talk about time that has not yet occurred?
>
>antennae on beings and on machinery
>
>bill/invoice/cost - Huch DIlnIS, yeah, but could be better
>
>a noun for wound more specific than QIH.
>
>invite/invitation
>
>look at, as distinct from bej and legh. I've been
>using bejchoH and qaStaHvIS lup bej, but surely
>there's a better way to describe a glance at a
>clock, a glance exchanged between friends or checking a map.
>
>morale, mood
>
>automatic, automatically - ruQHa'?
>
>hook/bracket/eyelet/loop/handle (other than DeS or ret'aq)
>
>hole/opening/tear/rip/gap/orifice Qargh, DIS,
>Qorwagh and lojmIt is the best we've got?
>
>be intermittant, pulse, flash, - qagh'egh, wewchoH ghIj wewbe'choH,
>
>Basic machines: pump, valve, wedge/ramp, lever, screw, pulley,
>
>Tool, sonic screwdriver, leatherman? All we have is mupwI'.
>
>sequence, pattern, arrangement, array, be
>arranged, be lined up, be sequenced, something
>like that, pertaining to things that are not may'morgh, nuH DaH, & chuyDaH.
>
>pull as an opposite of yuv. Hard to use luH for
>“apply gentle traction” or other uses where you want it to be smooth.
