[89446] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'maH loS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh)
Tue Sep 6 07:36:43 2011
From: Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 21:29:14 +1000
In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20110902223736.06ed8628@flyingstart.ca>
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wej 'ay'Hommey chu' vIlaDbe'pu'mo' jItlhIj. juHwIjvo' jIlengtaH qaStaHvIS wa'
Hogh 'ej pIj InternetvaD De'wI'wIj vIrarmoHlaHbe'. (Qu'wIjvaD jIvummeH, qumwIj
woj Hap woj je yejHaDDaq jIHtaH. jIqIDbe'. tIr tIQ vIHaDtaH jIH. mung poHDaj
vIper 'e' vInID, 'ej perlu'meH 'ut woj chungwI''a', vaj yejHaDvamDaq vIlengnIS.
Dajqu'. loQ munuQ Hung'a' 'ach Qu' vItIvqu'.)
> HoDpa'Daq, DeSDu'Daj nuD HoD. not 'oy' bIH 'ach pa' cha' DIr Segh
> DuDlu'. cha' mut DIr DuDlu'.
toH! 'e' vIloybe'. HoD bopchu'qu' ngem lutHomHey 'e' vIloy.
(SuD wa' DIr Segh 'ej qIj latlh DIr Segh 'e' Dajatlh 'e' vIQub, jIqawchu'chugh
('ach pupHa'chu'qu' yabwIj qawHaq). qIj tlhIngan DIr 'e' Dalegh'a'?)
> mInDu'Daj SoQmoH ghIq Sujbogh qechmey qIlmeH qaStaHvIS vagh tup tlhuH neH.
vIparHa'. jIHvaD HoSghaj.
> jatlh chelwI', "lutlh ghoch 'ach chepchoH. ghaytan pa' Sutmey
> wIngevlaH 'ej chaHvaD tIr wIHIjlaH. Qu'vamvaD mI' vIghajbe'. nuq
> mI'vaD Huch vItogh DaneH?"[3]
I found this a little odd without the footnote, but like you say, it's likely
that Klingons don't talk much about this kind of thing.
> jatlh jonwI' boQ, "leH motlhvaD wa' QuQ chu'Ha' neH jonwI'.
> ghochmajDaq rep 'ar wIbav 'e' DaHech?"
It's weird - we have no canon for this sort of sentence, but every time I go to
say "What do you want to do?" I *always* produce {nuq Data' DaneH?}. I find it
intriguing that this construction comes naturally to you too, since I'm sure I
never actively learned it from anyone. (Not a correction, not at all; just an
observation.)
> jatlh HoD. "tugh tlhIHvaD Se' mI' je vISuq. pa' chaq qaStaHvIS wa'
> rep neH maratlh, chaq qaStaHvIS wa' ram maratlh. yuQvam wIbavtaHvIS
> SaSovmoH. tlhoy ngajchugh poH wejleS yuQDaq wISaq.
Hm. Does Saq work like a verb of motion in this way? I think it might be a bit
of a stretch. Though it's tantalising to think of this device as being able to
show motion and goal more generally: quSDaq jIba' "I am sitting on the chair",
but quSDaq vIba' "I [go and] sit down on the chair", maybe? I'm going to have
to think some more about that.
> "maj," jatlh HoD. "SanaD. yuch neH'a' vay'?"
jatlh Huch, 'ach bom yuch!
> mon HoD, yaSpu'Daj pIm tIvtaHvIS
nuqDaq yaSpu' pIm tu'pu' HoD? It sounds a little like he's had his officers
replaced and he's now enjoying the new different ones. Do you mean Sar, or is
it that the two officers you're talking about are different from one another?
QeS 'utlh
