[89182] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: nuq bop bom: 'ay' loS
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Thu Aug 25 11:16:20 2011
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 10:09:36 -0500
In-Reply-To: <20C63BFE-D9C2-4BF5-AB4F-59995CAA4BC5@gmail.com>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
QeS 'utlh wrote:
>>> qabDajDaq 'oy' luleghchugh chaq Duj Dotlhmo' 'oH 'e' luHar yaSpu'.
>>
>> I'm not sure I like {'oH} here without an explicit location to go with
>> it. Assuming I'm reading this right ("if the officers saw pain on his
>> face, they believed it was due to the ship's status"), {Duj Dotlhmo'
>> 'oH} seems incomplete to me stylistically; I would say {Duj Dotlhmo'
>> pa' 'oHtaH}, with {pa'} referring back to {qabDajDaq}. But that's me.
lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
> I would think it would be more direct to talk about his face showing pain
> rather than all this talk about pain at his face's location.
> 'oy' 'ang qablIj 'e' lutu'chugh vaj Duj Dotlh qelba'taH net Sov.
Keep in mind that {qab 'ang} "show one's face" implies a duel, so you need to be very careful how you phrase this so that it is not misunderstood!
KGT 68f.: A duel is preceded by one party issuing a challenge to the other. This is expressed by using the phrase {qabDaj 'ang} (literally, "He/she shows his/her face," referring to the Klingon tenet that a warrior always shows his or her face in battle). To challenge someone to a duel, one will give the command {qablIj HI'ang} ("Show me your face!"), though this is often shortened to simply {HI'ang} ("Show me!"). [...] The challenged party may agree to the duel by answering {vISo'be'} ("I don't hide it") or the lengthier {qabwIj vISo'be'} ("I don't hide my face"). This person is said to {'angchu'} ("show clearly"), the usual shorthand way of saying {qabDaj 'angchu'} ("He/she shows his/her face clearly"). One accepts a challenge ({qab 'ang} [literally, "shows face"]) in order to prove one's honor ({quv tob} [literally, "test honor conclusively"]).
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
