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RE: mu'mey chu': Hun (was 'IHrun)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Felix Malmenbeck)
Sun Aug 21 10:34:06 2011
From: Felix Malmenbeck <felixm@kth.se>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 14:19:49 +0000
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Cool; no better way to start off a rough morning than to learn that you've impacted Okrandian canon... ...especially since I've already used the word Hun in my translation of "Amazing Horse" :P
According to DeCandido, the only one of his books with a glossary vetted by Okrand is "Diplomatic Implausability". Others have been vetted by vavoy and other members of the KLI.
(Source: http://twitter.com/#!/KRADeC/status/91641513691459584 )
This would make the following words canonical:
gha'poq - "Grapok" or "Grapok sauce"; a condiment often used to bring out the flavor in qagh or raHta'.
ghISnar - "Grishnar" or "Grishnar cat"
HuDyuQ - Name of a mountainous planet
Qa'Da' - Krada; an animal, the legs of which are served as food.
ma'to'vor - Mauk-to'Vor; death ritual through which one can die well at the hand of one close to them; see the episode DS9: "Sons of Mogh".
mong'em - "The area behind the neck"; the mong'em maneuever is used to block an attack from the rear.
QamchIy - Qam-Chee, a city of legend. (I think this one's been mentioned on this list before, as well, at the same time as Suto'vo'qor)
ramjep - A type of bird native of Qo'noS. Sometimes served as food.
taD - The name of an icy planet.
jeghpu'wI' - One who surrendered; use to refer to peoples conquered by the empire.
[This list may be incomplete, as I do not own a physical copy of the book; I've just looked at the Google preview.]
Of course, the canonization of Hun suggests that we may see more of the words from KRADeC's books pass into canon, from the sheep-like animal known as a bolmaq and the 'aDanjI' incense use in the Mauk-To'Vor to the paralyzing vIHbe' toxin and the meyvaQ sex aide.
I've posted an incomplete list of DeCandidian words here: http://klingon.livejournal.com/56112.html
I've also seen Voragh mention some of these, so I'm guessing he has a more complete list.
//loghaD
P.S. I went ahead and informed @KRADeC that his word is now canon. D.S.
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Subject: mu'mey chu': Hun (was 'IHrun)
jIja'pu':
> chaq rap Hun 'IHrun je. chaq ru' mu'Heyvam chu' 'ej Hun qawDI' Marc
> Okrand ngab 'IHrun.
The word {'IHrun} is no longer in the opera. After Marc Okrand was alerted
to the Burning House precedent (thank you, Felix), this was his response:
> Thanks for the note about "khrun." I have no idea where that spelling
> came from, but I think I'll go along with Keith DeCandido's book and
> use {Hun} (not 'IHrun) as the Klingon version. A while back, I
> provided Keith with some Klingon words for a novel he was working on,
> but I honestly don't remember this one. Nevertheless, {Hun} it is.
So we do have an official spelling for the word. It's just not the one we
wrote down at the time.
-- ghunchu'wI'
