[88526] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: New words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Dec 27 16:51:24 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 15:44:42 -0600
In-Reply-To: <F52986192E9FE346B0B7EF3D6F98E87710A6D77F@EXDB3.ug.kth.se>
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Felix:
>>> mevaq = mevak dagger
Voragh:
>> {mevaq} *m'veQ* dagger (KRAD: A Good Day to Die [DeCandido])
>> Used in the Mauk-to'Vor death ritual. First seen in DS9 "Sons of
>> Mogh".
Felix:
> Interestingly, at the Praxis convention in 1998, Marc Okrand reportedly
> used the pronunciation {ma'veq}, and according to Hol 'ampaS, "Okrand
> has confirmed that the new word for the ceremonial knife is {ma'veq}."
> This is actually how Kurn pronounces it in "Sons of Mogh" (which I
> believe is the only episode in which this traditional knife's name has
> been used), although the script (according to ST-minutiae) writes it as
> "mevak" and gives the pronunciation as "meh-VIK".
I should have searched my notes more thoroughly. I found an alternate spelling and a comment by charghwI' about Praxis 1998 presentation:
{ma'veq} *m'veQ* knife [ceremonial knife used with adanji incense in
the ritual of Mauk-to'Vor (DS9 "Sons of Mogh"). "The word comes
from a [.wav] recording of Okrand's pronunciation at an exhibit
at 1998 Praxis. The exhibitor was told by someone other than
Okrand that it should be spelled *m'veQ*." (charghwI' 2/99)]
I'll mark {ma'veQ} as the preferred spelling (with your comments) and list {mevaq} as an alternate. We have other variant spellings: e.g. {ghe'tor} vs. {ghe''or} for Gre'thor.
> Just make sure you never mistake this for a meyvaQ...
{meyvaQ} a sex aid [Based on context in the book, this would appear
to be a "toy" and not a "drug". (KRAD: Enemy Territory) [DeCandido]]
I wonder if Okrand had already come up with {meyvaQ} and this is why he was careful to pronounce {ma'veq} differently at Praxis 1998!
This goes to show that any Klingon dictionary is always a "work in progress".
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
