[88477] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: monastery
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Dec 22 15:11:18 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:04:20 -0600
In-Reply-To: <C305E6BD33E2654DAE1F8F403247B6A60218B054FFDE@EVS02.ad.uchicago.edu>
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Voragh:
> I also found this exchange on the old startrek.klingon newsgroup:
>
> **********************************************************************
> From: Marc Okrand <...>
> Newsgroups: startrek.klingon
> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998
> Subject: Re: "cleric" -- Dr. Okrand?
>
> Qov wrote...
>>> Is there a word for cleric? How about High Cleric?
>>
>> A cleric is a person ordained for religious duties. In the absence
>> of a specific word for cleric (I don't know >of any published word)
>> I might use:
>> {lalDan ghojmoHwI'} - teacher of religion
>> {lalDan tay DevwI'} - leader of a religion ceremony
>> {lalDan Sov choqwI'} - preserver of religious knowledge
>> {qeylIS SuvwI'} - warrior of Kahless
>>...depending on what I meant.
>
> I was going to respond to Khaywolf's original question by asking a
> question of my own in order to pin down exactly how Khaywolf wants to
> use the term translated as "cleric." Can the term be applied as broadly
> as the English word "cleric," or does it refer to something more specific
> or specialized?
>
> But before I got to it, Qov managed (as usual!) to come up with some
> really good suggestions.
>
> There may be a word for "cleric" (in some sense) we don't know yet. I'll
> wait to hear back from anyone who wants to provide clarification about
> what, exactly, a Klingon cleric is/does, and then I'll check to see if
> there's a good word for that.
>
> From: Alan Anderson <aranders@netusa1.net>
> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998
> Subject: Re: "cleric" -- Dr. Okrand?
>
> There were certainly Klingon clerics on Boreth, at the monastery that
> was established by the followers of Kahless. Whatever else they did,
> they created a clone of Kahless. :-) It seems that their duty was to
> await Kahless' return, to remember and tell stories about him in the
> meantime, and to guide or advise others in spiritual matters. I have
> usually thought of the particular clerics portrayed in the TNG episode
> "Rightful Heir" as religious leaders/guides, which is an idea I think
> the Klingon phrase {lalDan DevwI'} captures well.
>
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>
Although fairly obvious, this suggests *{ghIn DevwI'} for an abbot/abbess or High Cleric (of a monastery) based on:
yejquv DevwI' Leader of the High Council (S25)
QaS DevwI' troop commander [from Keith R.A. DeCandido's
novels; vetted by Okrand]
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
