[88406] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Klingon retronyms (was RE: latlh mu' chu')
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Dec 8 12:07:14 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:51:21 -0600
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Voragh:
>>>If we're looking for a Klingon term, "retronyms" could be considered a
>>>form of {no' Hol}, maybe even {mu'mey Doy'}. Can anyone think of other
>>>Klingon retronyms other than {nagh beQ}?
QeS:
>>The one that springs immediately to mind, though it's not quite the
>>same thing, is {DaSpu'} "boot spike"; IIRC, Okrand says in KGT that it
>>likely arose after the older word *{pu'} "spike" was appropriated as
>>the usual term for "phaser".
Voragh:
>Also {QIn} "message":
>KGT 65: Finally, though not connected to weaponry, the word {QIn} means
>not only spearhead but also message. In this case, it is not clear which
>came first. Perhaps the spearhead was always thought of as the message
>being delivered by the spear or spear wielder.
And also {mIv} "helmet":
KGT 58: ... old armor included headgear of some kind apparently called
a {mIv}, which, in modern Klingon, means "helmet". The word also survives
in the word {mIv'a'} ("crown"; literally, "big helmet" or "great helmet")
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
