[88364] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: wovmoHwI'mey yupma'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (R Fenwick)
Fri Dec 3 09:32:41 2010
From: R Fenwick <qeslagh@hotmail.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 00:19:37 +1000
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
ghItlhpu' Voragh, jatlh:
> DIngwI' mach vIghaj jIH.
> lamvo' vIchenmoHpu'.
> QaDchoHpu'DI' 'eHchoH,
> ghIq DIngwI' vIQujqu'!
>I thought there would be comments by now! I guess some people don't recognize
>the "Dreydl Song" ({DIngwI'} "spinner, top".)
I actually did recognise it (though to my everlasting shame I originally have
an episode of South Park to thank for that...), but didn't comment because I
thought it was rather well rendered! I'm reticent about {lamvo'} for the same
reason you are, but due to the pretty strong metric constraints I don't think
I can do much better.
Also, since {'eH} is an exclamation the use of {-choH} on it is jarring. What
about saying {rInchoH} "it becomes accomplished" instead?
taH:
>I'm not happy with how I translated "I made it out of clay" - there being no
>known word for "clay". {lam yIQ} "mud, wet dirt" or {lam jeD/Hum} "viscous/
>sticky dirt" didn't feel right and didn't fit the tune.
I'm with DloraH: I understood perfectly what you meant when you used {lam} on
its own. I'd stick with it!
>Yes, I know {-vo'} "from, direction away from" doesn't work like this. I
>suppose I could have used our all-purpose {-mo'} "due to, because of", but
>that wasn't right either.
True. What do you think of {'oHvaD lam lo'lu'}, then? It's a little too close
to the English idiomatic meaning - "clay was used for it" - for my liking but
it does fit the metre and also end-rhymes with the final line.
QeS 'utlh
