[88254] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: jISIv
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Sep 14 11:55:52 2010
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 10:47:53 -0500
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W13B888DF04A5D5BA28CBE0AA780@phx.gbl>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
QeS:
>Even so, I'm not convinced {qaSpu'mo' tup 'ar} is appropriate. It feels
>indirect, too much like an attempt to render the English too closely.
>You wouldn't really be late because five minutes happened (since the
>minutes will tick on anyway); you'd be late because you were sick,
>because the shuttlecraft was late, or whatever.
>
>Now that I think about it, I wonder if {tup 'armo'} might be a little
>better, using the type 5 noun suffix {-mo'} instead of the type 9 verb
>suffix. "I am late because of how many minutes?"
{'ar} is a question word, not a noun, so it would have to be {tupmo' 'ar...}
>Still don't think I like it much, but what do you think?
Another unsatisfactory version to through in to the discussion:
jIpaSpu'; poH yIper!
I was late; specify the period of time!
(i.e. How late was I?)
Okrand has used {per} "label, ascertain, specify, pin down" with time expressions on st.k (2/99):
rep yIper!
Ascertain the hour! Specify the hour! (i.e. "What time is it?")
["This is literally "Label the hour!"]
but I don't know if Klingons use {poH} this way. They may well answer "this morning" - which could also be the answer to {ghorgh jIpaSpu'?}
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
