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From: (Mark E. Shoulson) <shoulson@ctr.columbia.edu>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Fri, 14 May 93 09:37:47 -0400
In-Reply-To: mark's message of Thu, 13 May 93 09:46:39 EST <9305130946.A05912@d
>From: mark <mark@dragonsys.COM>
>Date: Thu, 13 May 93 09:46:39 EST
>Content-Length: 1773
>A.APPLEYARD responds to me as follows:
>-------- (begin quoted material)
> > Datu'lu''a' : 'do you exist?' or 'is there a you? are you there?'
> > Literally, 'does one find you?' See p. 39.
> `Da<verb>` = "thou <verb> him|it|them", not "<anything> <verb> thee". A set
>of pronoun prefixes for "one V", "one V me", "one V you_sg", "one V he|it",
>"one V us", "one V you_pl", "one V them" (where V is a verb) is needed; this
>will also allow e.g. "one can consult the captain" easily without having to
>put two type 5 suffixes (laH, lu') on the same verb.
>---------- (end quoted material)
>Concerning Da, indeed so. I was trying to extend the use of
>tu'lu' to the second person, which may not be legitimate.
Actually, not quite indeed so, and it *is* legitimate. See 4.2.5, which
says that when the "-lu'" suffix is used, the 3rd-person singular object
suffixes get their meanings reversed, making the subject the object, so
"Datu'lu''a'" *does* mean "something finds you".
~mark
