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RE: qoSwIj

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Tue Jan 5 15:44:27 2010

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 14:41:28 -0600
In-Reply-To: <4B426F91.5020601@trimboli.name>
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Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org

Thorwald:
>>> DaHjaj'e' 'oH qoSwIj 'e' }}:-)

kff@sics.se:
>> But what is the function of the last {'e'}? I parse the stuff before
>> that as 'My birthday is *today*', which seems perfectly logical and
>> sufficient to my meagre knowledge of Klingon grammar.

SuStel:
>The correct way to say "My birthday is today" is {DaHjaj 'oH qoSwIj'e'}.
>The {-'e'} is required in any "to be" sentence.
>
>I suspect Thorwald meant to emphasize the "today," as you guess above,
>but then you'd have to put {-'e'} on two different [noun]s in the
>sentence, and that'd be weird. We don't know if that kind of thing is
>allowed.

marqoS:
| Agreed, it seems odd to have two topics.  Does the -'e' in copula 
| sentences have any emphatic force left?  If so, just making the noun 
| you want to emphasize the topic would seem to work here.  But it could 
| be that the -'e' is pure syntax at this point, in which case I'm not 
| sure how one would go about adding emphasis.

>I believe that {-'e'} is performing its primary function, which is 
>topicalization. "Let's talk about my birthday. It is today."

Although I haven't found any examples, if Thorwald wants to add emphasis to the copula sentence - without simply using an exclamation point that is! - he could probably add the suffix (-qu'} "emphatic" or {-bej} "certainly, undoubtedly, definitely") to the pronoun.  

For extra emphasis, both suffixes can be used together:

  maHeghbejqu' 
  It's certain death. (ST5 notes)
 
So:

  DaHjaj 'oH qoswIj'e'.
  DaHjaj 'oHbej qoswIj'e'!
  DaHjaj 'oHqu' qoswIj'e'!!
  DaHjaj 'oHbejqu' qoswIj'e'!!!

If you're not comfortable adding suffixes to a pronoun, use the verb {lop} "celebrate":

  DaHjaj qoSwIj vIlopbejqu'!!!



-- 
Voragh                          
Canon Master of the Klingons




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