[87392] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Numbers with pronouns
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Tue Dec 1 15:53:03 2009
Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:51:00 -0500
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
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Christopher Doty wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 18:52, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:
>> I don't think you'd specify two of a group; you'd just specify two. This
>> happens in Star Trek III:
>>
>> wa' yIHoH!
>> Kill one of them.
>> "kill one"
>
> Actually, in thinking about this example... We know that numbers can
> be used as nouns, as in this example, so they should be able to stand
> in in cases with a pronoun as the verb:
>
> <cha' maH>
> "We are two"
>
> So maybe better would be (ignoring for the moment your later comment
> about the pronoun-as-verb, for parallelism with what I wrote before):
>
> <cha' maH, 'ej nItebHa' maHtaHvIS>
> "We are two, and while we are together..."
>
> Does this seem more agreeable? Can number + pronoun be used in a
> simple clause like this?
With the greater context, the sentence is much better.
> Just to be sure, though: there isn't
> anything in canon that precludes the use of an adverb with a verbal
> pronoun; it just seems odd?
Not that I'm aware of. It does seem odd, though, and lacking any
examples, I would avoid it.
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