[87271] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: "in (language)"
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (ghunchu'wI')
Sat Nov 28 13:50:16 2009
In-Reply-To: <COL114-W6D3148E64137692291EE9B6990@phx.gbl>
From: "ghunchu'wI'" <qunchuy@alcaco.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:34:21 -0500
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
On Nov 28, 2009, at 12:11 PM, <blake.turner@yotes.collegeofidaho.edu>
wrote:
> tera'ngan jiH 'ach "Toq" jIpong'egh. jIchu' 'ach jIgholrup.
<jIghojrup> DaghItlhHa'pu'.
batlh bIghojjaj.
> "in Klingon" jIjatlh vineH. *tlhInganDaq?
{tlhIngan} is a race/species. The name of the Klingon language is
{tlhIngan Hol}.
The noun suffix {-Daq} refers specifically to physical location. It
doesn't work for everything "in" can mean in English.
{tlhInganDaq} would be "in/on/towards a/the Klingon", perhaps
referring to someone standing on a Klingon's shoulders. :)
> *tlhInganDaq HIjatlh! "Speak to me in Klingon!"
The object of the verb {jatlh} "speak" can be the language spoken.
{tlhIngan Hol yIjatlh}
"Speak Klingon!"
The idea of "to me" can be carried using the noun suffix {-vaD} "for,
intended for".
{jIHvaD tlhIngan Hol yIjatlh}
"Speak Klingon to me!"
> *tlhInganDaq jIghItlh. "I am writing in Klingon."
In this case, I would treat the language as a tool and recast the
idea to say
{jIghItlhmeH tlhIngan Hol vIlo'}
"I use Klingon in order to write."
I might change the first word to {jIghItlhtaHvIS...} "...while I am
writing."
> jIjatlhlaH je,*tlhIngan HolDaq jIchu' ("I am new to the Klingon
> language")?
I'd rephrase that as "The Klingon language is new for me."
{jIHvaD chu' tlhIngan Hol}
> naDev jIQuch! JAFraj jIloS.
juQuchmoHjaj. nuq 'oS <JAF>?
The verb prefix {jI-} says that the verb has no object. If you are
waiting for something, {loS} needs a prefix indicating an object: {vI-}
"JAF" looks like it might be the pseudo-pIqaD rendition of the verb
{jang} "answer". If that's what you meant, you can't use it as a
noun. To say "I await your answer", change it to "I await that you
all answer me" {tujang 'e' vIloS}.
naDev SoHmo' jIQuch je jIH.
-- ghunchu'wI'
