[87158] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: The topic marker -'e'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Doty)
Wed Nov 25 17:43:05 2009
In-Reply-To: <9CBB6F0E-5AA2-4889-B957-9EBCC307C822@alcaco.net>
From: Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:39:31 -0800
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Can we see some canon with -lu'? I'd guess that you can't actually
get it on <bIr>, as all of the examples in TKD that I can find are
transitive verbs.
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 14:21, ghunchu'wI' <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
> On Nov 25, 2009, at 1:44 PM, Christopher Doty wrote:
>
>>> Now take any verb of quality in Klingon and put {-lu'} on it. Try to
>>> translate it into English using passive voice. Most of the time you
>>> will fail.
>>>
>>> {bIr} "he is cold"
>>> {bIrlu'} "...?"
>>
>> Yeah, but you can't do this in English either, as you note with your
>> lack of translation. "He is colded (by the wind)" is nonsensical.
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> "Either"? I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. You
> *can* do it in Klingon, but its translation into English does not
> involve passive voice. My point is that you can't translate {bIrlu'}
> into English as passive voice.
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
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