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Re: Question about Klingon books (e.g., Gilgamesh et al.)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Doty)
Tue Nov 24 23:47:44 2009

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From: Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 20:46:07 -0800
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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> N-wI' is not always a person.  It can be a thing.

I know, but N-wI' does mean "the thing/person doing the seeing" and
not "the thing which is seen."  One is a noun about the subject, and
one is a noun about the object.  That is what I am getting at, not
anything about people or things.

>> Ought it not be <leghbe'lu'ghach> or <leghbe'lu'bogh wanI'>?
>> Or is the passive/inverse meaning of -lu' take to its extreme here?
>
> <leghbe'lu'ghach> is a noun referring to the action of not-being-seen.

Right, the thing which is not seen: the unseen.  Is there some shade
of meaning I'm missing here?

> <leghbe'lu'bogh wanI'> refers to an event, an occurance.
>
> Seeing this I do ask myself about putting -wI' on a -lu'.  Can we do this?
> I know... It is really really old tlhIngan Hol; no' Hol.

So it's fair to say that it is a bit odd, if understandable, and I'm
not totally off-base in wondering about it?

Chris




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