[86941] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: The topic marker -'e'
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Doty)
Mon Nov 23 01:10:37 2009
In-Reply-To: <249d5b950911222149taaae2cm775a3fb413b36cd8@mail.gmail.com>
From: Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:08:02 -0800
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
If, as you say:
ma-pum Sor
3plS-accuse tree
could mean "We trees accuse," then
ma-HoH Sor
3plS-kill tree
could mean "We trees kill." We could translate this into English as
"We kill robots," which mean that we are robots and kill things.
Actually, more analogous given word order differences would be "Robots
we kill."
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 21:49, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
> Now you've totally lost me.
> lay'tel SIvten
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> On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Christopher Doty <suomichris@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 20:25, Steven Lytle <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I don't see any connection between what I suggested and "We kill robots".
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>> > the first case, there are two subjects (ma- "we", Sor "tree(s)"), and
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>> > they are both subjects, simply equate them; interpret them as meaning the
>> > same thing.
>> > Your example of "We kill robots" is totally different. There is one
>> subject
>> > and one object. There is no justification for equating "we" with
>> "robots".
>> > lay'tel SIvten
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>> These are exactly the same if the interpretation of "pum" is as the verb
>> accuse.
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