[86777] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Sentences as objects
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Terrence Donnelly)
Tue Nov 3 16:14:54 2009
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:59:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly@sbcglobal.net>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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I expect Voragh will have many examples bearing on your questions.
--- On Tue, 11/3/09, Tracy Canfield <toastrix@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm guessing that you can use these in two sentences:
> jagh jeylu'.
> vIQIjpu'. "The enemy was defeated. I explained
> it." for an equivalent to
> "I explained that the enemy was defeated."
>
I've also used { vIQIj. jIjatlh. jagh jeylu'.}
> 4. Verbs of wanting
>
> TKD shows that neH takes a sentence object without using a
> complementizer
> such as 'e' or net:
>
> want neH
> jIQong vIneH
>
> Do these verbs work the same way?
>
> hope tul
> prefer maS
>
I'm pretty sure that only {neH] works this way (I explain it to myself by positing that {neH} is on its way to becoming a suffix: *{vISopneH}).
> * In many cases, including English, these "sentence
> objects" take forms that
> wouldn't be allowed in a standalone sentence - we say "He
> goes" but "I want
> him to go". Since none of these forms have Klingon
> equivalents that I know
> if, I'm trying to avoid getting sidetracked into
> non-Klingon grammar.
>
Just wanted to point out that you can definitely say "I want him to go" in Klingon: {ghoS (ghaH) vIneH}.
-- ter'eS
