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Re: na'ran rur [Re: Klingon WOTD: na' (verb)]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Wed Sep 30 16:27:56 2009

Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:26:12 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
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qe'San (Jon Brown) wrote:
> I suspect there is no further canon on the use of  {na'ran rur} but is there 
> anything indicative of how to use it.
> 
> How could I say or get close to saying, "Terrans enjoy eating sweet food".
> 
> na'ran rurbogh Soj  -  food that resembles na'ran
> Soj luSop tera'gnan  -  Terran's eat food
> lutIv  -  They enjoy it
> 
> na'ran rurbogh Soj luSop tera'gnan lutIv  - Terrans enjoy eating food which 
> resembles na'ran..
> 
> However that makes me think that it's the food that resembles naran rather 
> than the flavour.  So rather than "food resmbles na'ran" would it be better 
> to have taste in there somewhere:  "Terran's enjoy eating food whose taste 
> resembles na'ran"  but that uses taste as a noun which I don't believe 
> exists... so I'm lost there..

The passage on page 85 of KGT says, "The closest equivalent to 'sweet' 
is probably {na'ran rur} ('resembles a /naran,/' a fruit whose juice is 
sometimes added to sauces as a contrast to the other flavors.)" Nowhere 
does the phrase ever talking about HOW something resembles a /naran/. 
This suggests that the phrase {na'ran rur} automatically means "tastes 
sweet."

Remember also that the words for tastes actually refers to the effect on 
the senses and not a quality of the food itself, so if {na'ran rur} is 
the closest you can get to "sweet," it must actually mean "tastes and 
smells sweet."

Also, don't forget the pronoun {'e'}.

na'ran rurbogh Soj luSop tera'ngan 'e' lutIv.

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