[86544] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Relative clause in a relative clause
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Fri Sep 18 12:36:59 2009
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:34:38 -0500
In-Reply-To: <cee.63e080bb.37e50915@wmconnect.com>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
qurgh:
>> Doch cho'angbogh vISov 'e' vIHar
>> I believe I know the thing you show me
lay'tel SIvten:
>You could shorten {vISov 'e' vIHar} to {vISovlaw'}. It's not exactly the
>same, but OTOH, is "Har/believe" a genuine belief, or merely equivalent
>to "I think" or even "perhaps"?
I agree about {Har} "believe". Our sole example is:
qaHarbe'; bo'Dagh'a' Dalo'
I don't believe you; you're using a big scoop
(i.e. "You're exaggerating") KGT
You could also say {... 'e' vIQub} "I think that...":
st.k 7/01/97: All four words asked about ... can be used in the construction {S 'e' V}, where S is a sentence, {'e'} is the pronoun (that) which refers to a previous topic (in this case S), and V is one of the verbs listed above (as well as some others). If the sentence (S) is {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh} "you speak Klingon", it's OK to say... {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vIQub} "I think that you speak Klingon"
How this differs from {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlhlaw'} is unclear. (An unspoken thought vs. a belief perhaps?)
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons
