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RE: nom*i*nal*ize 2. to convert (an underlying clause) into a

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Sep 14 12:59:30 2009

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:57:58 -0500
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Voragh:
>> Note that all five of these have another suffix between the
>> verb and {-ghach}.

ter'eS:
>What's interesting about these is that these are different types of
>suffixes. From MO's description, it sounded like you couldn't use a naked
>verb plus {-ghach} because some sort of time or state was implied by {-
>ghach} that the naked verb didn't convey, so one had to use one of the
>"aspectual" suffixes, such as {-taH} or {-qa'}. But the only aspectual
>suffix in the above group is {-qa'}, and the others are more like modal
>suffixes.  So maybe the need for an intervening suffix is more of a
>formal requirement than something inherent in the meaning of {-ghach}.

To review the types of intervening suffixes MO has used:

Type 3 (change)
  naDqa'ghach      "re-commendation" (TKD)

Type 4 (cause):
  quvmoHghach      "process of honoring" (HQ 3.3)

Type 5 (ability):
  lo'laHghach      "value" (TKD)
  lo'laHbe'ghach   "worthlessness" (TKD)

Type 7 (aspect):
  tlhutlhtaHghach  "ongoing drinking" (HQ 3.3)
  nobtaHghach      "ongoing giving" (HQ 3.3)
  nobpu'ghach      "a given (a finished case of giving)" (HQ 3.3)
  belpu'ghach      "having been pleased" (HQ 3.3)

Rover:
  naDHa'ghach      "discommendation" (TKD)
  quvHa'ghach      "dishonor" (TKW)



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Voragh                          
Canon Master of the Klingons




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