[86478] in tlhIngan-Hol
RE: Doctoral project on the Klingon language
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Sep 2 10:23:22 2009
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 09:21:29 -0500
In-Reply-To: <612370.24378.qm@web82601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Voragh:
>> In fact, every one of these could easily have been translated "if one
>> [does X]" with no loss in meaning. And so:
>>
>> bIQaHchugh, yIQaH!
>> bIQaHmo', yIQaH!
>>
>> vay' DaQaHchugh, yIQaH!
>> vay' DaQaHmo', yIQaH!
ter'eS:
>In the midst of all the excellent advices, the "can" part has gotten
>lost:
> vay' DaQaHlaHchugh, yIQaH!
> vay' DaQaHlaHmo', yIQaH!
ghay'cha'! HIvqa' veqlargh.
Voragh:
>> Unfortunately {-laH} and {-lu'} are both Type 5 suffixes and can't be
>> used together. There are, of course, the "totally artificial, made-up
>> suffixes" {-luH} or {-la'} (described in TKD p.181) but, as Okrand warns:
>>
>> No one accepts such constructions as grammatical; their
>> inappropriateness, the way they grate on the Klingon ear,
>> is exactly what gives them elocutionary clout. A visitor
>> may hear one of these odd suffixes occasionally, but, as
>> with other intentionally ungrammatical forms, it is best
>> to avoid using them until one is extremely comfortable
>> with the nuances of Klingon style. [TKD 181]
qurgh:
>KGT DaghItlh 'e' DaHech, qar'a'?
>My TKD has Indirect Objects on page 181...
ghuy'cha'!! lughba' <<KGT 181>>. cha'logh HIvqa' veqlargh!
QInmey vIlabpa' QInwIj vIlaDnISqa'chu'!
(I really should proofread my posts before sending them!)
--
Voragh
Canon Master of the Klingons
