[86374] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: pIqaD bom
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Roney, Jr.)
Wed Jul 29 15:06:26 2009
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:01:41 -0400
From: "Michael Roney, Jr." <nahqun@gmail.com>
To: "tlhingan-hol@kli.org" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
In-Reply-To: <de5ff8770907291140l4b32301bxc97ba0ad4016214f@mail.gmail.com>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Interesting. You placed qagh- on a previously unknown-to-me note.
And introduced yet another English ending.
I'm starting to think that no one sings this song the same way (I was introduced to a peculiar UK version last night).
~naHQun
-Michael Roney, Jr.
Professional Klingon translator
http://twitter.com/roneyii
--Sent from my Palm PrēRenee Scherer wrote:
Quite true--sorry. How's this?
http://s919.photobucket.com/albums/ad31/tlharin/?action=view&current=KLI_alphabet_song.jpg
--R
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:05 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>wrote:
> Sadly this is a plain text list.
> You'll have to post the pic somewhere and link to it.
> Flickr or Photobucket would work.
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> If anyone else is more visual, I placed the originally-suggested mapping
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> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. &lt;nahqun@gmail.com<lt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>
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> > My line breaks or pauses are just the way my brain processes the song.
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> > If it doesn't make sense, just break them somewhere else.
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> > > --Sent from my Palm PrēSteven Boozer wrote:
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Renee Scherer
ischerer@umich.edu
tlharin@gmail.com
(224) 717-1894
University of Michigan
