[86368] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: pIqaD bom
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Renee Scherer)
Wed Jul 29 13:57:15 2009
In-Reply-To: <4a708873.02578c0a.199e.ffffa3ca@mx.google.com>
From: Renee Scherer <tlharin@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 13:54:59 -0400
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
If anyone else is more visual, I placed the originally-suggested mapping
onto sheet music to understand how what was provided could be used with the
existent song (used one new line suggestion as well)--hope it attaches.
Kept the English on the sheet for sake of comparison.
--Renee
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com>wrote:
> Apparently my spacebar stuck.
> My line breaks or pauses are just the way my brain processes the song.
> If it doesn't make sense, just break them somewhere else.
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> ~naHQun
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> -Michael Roney, Jr.
> Professional Klingon translator
> http://twitter.com/roneyii
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> --Sent from my Palm PrēMark J. Reed wrote:
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> But why does your first line stop where it does?
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> 'at bay chay Day 'et ghay Hay'It jay lay may
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> A B C D E F G H I J
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> And why are {Hay} and {'It} joined together?
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> On 7/29/09, Michael Roney, Jr. <nahqun@gmail.com<lt%3Bnahqun@gmail.com>>
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> > While my wife has recently informed me of the similarities between this
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> > and Twinkle, Twinkle; I have never compared the two in this manner.
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> > I simply took each English letter as 1 syllable except for w which is 3
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> > As mentioned ' is 2 syllables which leaves us 1 syllable short.
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> > My song ends with "w x y &amp; z" with only 1 &amp;, not 2.
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> > The 'o'megh is "Now I know my ABC's, next time won't you sing with me.
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> > The DaH was moved up to cover the "missing" syllable, and I dropped the
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> > -Michael Roney, Jr.
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> > Professional Klingon translator
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> > --Sent from my Palm PrēSteven Boozer wrote:
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> > >From Mark J. Reed's mobile device:
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> >>Not getting the scansion. I learned the English as follows:
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> >>A,B,C,D,E,F,G. (Twinkle twinkle little star)
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> >>H,I,J,K,L-M,N-O,P. (How I wonder what you are)
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> >>Q,R,S. (Up above)
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> >>(and) T,U,V (the world so high)
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> >>W,X and Y and Z (like a diamond in the sky)
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> >>Which would map to something like this:
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> >> 'at,bay,chay,Day,'et,ghay,Hay
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> >> 'It,jay,lay,may,nay-ngay,'ot-pay,qay
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> >> Qay ray Say
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> >> tay tlhay 'ut vay
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> >> way yay qaghwI' je. rIntaH.
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> > Now I know my ABC's. (Twinkle twinkle little star)
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> > What do you think of me? (How I wonder what you are)
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> > Which would be something like:
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> > DaH vuDlIj'e' yIja'!
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> > though a more Klingon approach would be:
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> > DaH vuDlIj vISaHbe'!
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> --
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> Mark J. Reed <markjreed@gmail.com <lt%3Bmarkjreed@gmail.com>>
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