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From: mark <mark@dragonsys.COM>
To: "Klingon Language List" <tlhIngan-Hol@village.boston.ma.us>
Date: Thu, 13 May 93 09:46:39 EST
A.APPLEYARD responds to me as follows:
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> Datu'lu''a' : 'do you exist?' or 'is there a you? are you there?'
> Literally, 'does one find you?' See p. 39.
`Da<verb>` = "thou <verb> him|it|them", not "<anything> <verb> thee". A set
of pronoun prefixes for "one V", "one V me", "one V you_sg", "one V he|it",
"one V us", "one V you_pl", "one V them" (where V is a verb) is needed; this
will also allow e.g. "one can consult the captain" easily without having to
put two type 5 suffixes (laH, lu') on the same verb.
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Concerning Da, indeed so. I was trying to extend the use of
tu'lu' to the second person, which may not be legitimate.
Concerning additional prefixes: This has already been discussed;
it is a Known Problem. Remember that Klingon, as we are treating
it here, is not a project under development that we can propose
additions and changes to (much less make them on our own), like
Lojban or, to a lesser degree, Esperanto (which it is more
established than Lojban, with a larger usage community and no
central authority). It is an existing language, used by a large
population. They are certainly diverse and known to speak many
dialects, but that is a problem to be dealt with in the data
available from different sources. It is *we* who are studying
*their* language, and while we are certainly free to learn it and
use it, and make the most we can of it from the data we have, we
have no right to modify it... as I'm sure the Klingons would
energetically agree. You wanna argue with 'em?
- marqem
Mark A. Mandel
Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200
320 Nevada St. : Newton, Mass. 02160, USA : mark@dragonsys.com
