[86251] in tlhIngan-Hol
vIl - be ridgy in HolQeD 13:1
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (qe'San \(Jon Brown\))
Sun Jul 12 12:37:24 2009
From: "qe'San \(Jon Brown\)" <qeSan@btinternet.com>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:33:32 +0100
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Can anyone tell me if HolQeD 13:1 was also the first time that vIl was
used?
I'd missed vIl at the time 13:1 came out in the sense of I didn't have the
word recorded and only discovered it a few weeks ago when re-reading my
HolQeD. So now I'm wondering if it was given to us anywhere else prior to
that?
Before that I always thought that to a Klingon their ridges are normal and
smooth wasn't so forehead implied ridges.
QuchwIj pIm QuchlIj
Your forehead is different to mine (i.e. different family)
Although thinking about that sentence; can [pIm] be used like that or would
I need to say that differently to get that meaning?
QuchlIj Hab law' vovlI' Quch Hab puS
You forehead is smoother that your fathers
Which I thought also made quite a good insult with ref to parentage
(assuming the grammar is correct).
Whatever the case it's nice to add vIl - be ridgy to my dictionary.but it
would be good to know where it was first used.
qe'San
----- Original Message -----
From: "qe'San (Jon Brown)" <qeSan@btinternet.com>
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> From: "David Trimboli" <david@trimboli.name>
>> It was said that there is a canonical example of a comparative sentence
>> using {law'be'} and {puSbe'}. What is it, and where is it found?
>
> See Maltz's Reward Part IV HolQeD 13:1 pg 10:
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> QuchwIj vIl law' QuchlIj vIl puS
> my forehead is reidgier than your forehead
>
> To diagree with this notion, that is, to assert that your forehead is not
> ridgier than mine (it may be the same), one would use the construction A Q
> law'be' B Q puSbe' (A's Q is not many, B's Q is not few) (-be' not):
>
> QuchlIj vIl law'be' QuchwIj vIl puSbe'
> your forehead isn't ridgier than my forehead
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> qe'San
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