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RE: Quick ghoS question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (DloraH)
Tue Jul 7 16:24:10 2009

From: "DloraH" <seruq@bellsouth.net>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:13:55 -0500
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> 	{lupDujHomDaq jIchegh}
> 	"I return on the shuttle."
> 
> 	{lupDujHom vIchegh       	}
> 	"I return to the shuttle."
> 
> 	{lupDujHomDaq may'Duj vIchegh}
> 	"I return to the battle cruiser on the shuttle"
> 
> 	{tera'vo' Qo'noS vIchegh}
> 	"I return to Kronos from Earth"
> 
> If the place being returned to is mentioned (as in the final 
> three sentences), the verb takes a pronominal prefix that 
> indicates the object ({vI-} in the examples).
> 
> ****************************************************************
> 
> >So do these two sentences mean the same thing (I go, in a 
> ship, to my home)
> >and which one is preferred (if there is a preference)?
> >
> >  DujDaq juHwIj vIghoS
> >  DujDaq juHwIjDaq vIghoS
> 
> If I read Okrand correctly, you'd use {jI-} on the 2nd example:
> 
>   DujDaq juHwIjDaq jIghoS

He is going TO his home; so with or without -Daq I would leave it with vI-.

As to which is preferred, I think the double -Daq when one is the destination and one is the means
of travel can be a little confusing.
DujDaq juHwIj vIghoS - I am on a ship going home, is more easy to read.

DujDaq juHwIjDaq vIghoS - I am at my home, which is on a ship, and I am going to it (whatever "it"
is).  Or it could be: I am on a ship going home.

DujDaq juHwIjDaq jIghoS - I am at my home, which is on a ship, and I am going.


DloraH





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