[85858] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon orthography (was: Okrand at qep'a')
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Everson)
Wed Jun 24 04:39:17 2009
From: Michael Everson <everson@evertype.com>
In-Reply-To: <d65.3dfce430.3772fc06@wmconnect.com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:37:07 +0100
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
On 24 Jun 2009, at 04:48, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote:
> In a message dated 6/23/2009 19:09:56 Eastern Daylight Time,
> everson@evertype.com writes:
>
>> IPA would be unambiguous, but it's not the most practical or
>> attractive of orthographies.
>>
>> Qa?taxv?? xot? ???, lo?lo? Xolq??? t??nmox T???an Xol J?jxa?; ???
>> maj q??w?? pot?qu? ?ox. ??t?m?j l??, ??t?m?j mot? j? ?a? xot?
>> jabb????, ??j T???an xolq???, T???an xol, T???an nu? j? q?l. Q?t?m?
>> j??? ?a?bo? nu?bo? jabb???? nu?m?x ??j ?oxm?x nar? j? la?w??pu?
>> jabb????xomm?j; mavuvt?uqm?x ??j maja?t?uqt?u?m?x nar?. Xolq??? n?v
>> law?, q?ono? mot? n?v pu?: xa?t?u?m?x q?ono? ?ox xolq??????. ?Ox?aq
>> nar?pa? ??t?, ?ox nu?t?u? lat?, ??j ??t? ??t?w?? ?ovb??. Xolq??? j?
>> x »J?jquv Paq?om«, ??j ?ox bo? j? »‹ax Xol J?jxa?«.
>
> My email program doesn't copy the unusual symbols.
Once again, it is impossible to say why without knowing what computer
you are using and what operating system, and what e-mail client. It
seems that it might be fairly old as so many of the characters have
been converted into question marks; you have lost the Unicode
encoding. (Consider upgrading to a newer e-mail client -- not for me,
but just for better interoperability with the rest of the world).
Though even I stuck with Eudora for Mac for a long long time, hoping
it would be upgraded for Unicode support. I finally shifted to Apple
Mail, which is very robust.
> {yejquv} and {yejHaD} would not be spelled with initial <j>.
They would be in IPA, and that was an IPA orthography. In IPA y is [j]
and j is [dʒ] (like dzh).
I can make a PDF of all of these examples so people can see them.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
