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Re: nuq bach?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Trimboli)
Tue May 26 21:55:40 2009

Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:52:34 -0400
From: David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name>
In-reply-to: <f5b478ef0905261834i36ff00d6hd3d6226df20117cf@mail.gmail.com>
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
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qa'vaj wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:51 PM, David Trimboli <david@trimboli.name> wrote:
>> I agree. Nothing tells us that {bachchu'} means "shoot and hit," and
>> nothing tells us that the kind of object the verb takes will change with
>> the addition of the suffix. It could just mean "shoot with perfect form."
>>
>>        nuq qIp yaS?
>>        What did the officer hit?
>>
> Looking over the thread, I'm surprised that {-vaD} hasn't been mentioned.
> 
> HeSwI'vaD bach yaS. qIp.
> 
> "The officer shot at a criminal and hit him."
> 
> Which has a slightly different connotation from:
> 
> bach yaS.  HeSwI' qIp.
> 
> "The officer shot.  He hit a criminal."
> 
> The former being a little clearer that it was the criminal he was intending
> to hit when he shot.

{-vaD} indicates a beneficiary, not a target. {HeSwI'vaD bach yaS} means 
"The officer shot (something) for the criminal."

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David Trimboli
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