[85259] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon keyboard
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James)
Sun Jan 18 01:14:14 2009
Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:12:33 -0800
From: James <jameskng@direct.ca>
To: tlhIngan-Hol@kli.org
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
>> Not sure about the layout, but Cherry is an American company (they make
>> switches, and builds keyboards from them). This keyboard is from a UK
>> reseller, so I'd guess it would have a UK layout
>
> Okay, I might be wrong about the origin of Cherry, the page gave a link to
> "Further information on the Cherry keyboard range can be found at the Cherry website."
> an this cherry website is german...
> (wikipedia gives the solution to this: it's an american company owned by a german company)
Ah, I didn't know they got acquired. All I know is that Cherry makes
some nice switches (and keyboards) way back when in the 80's or so.
There are still a few keyboard manufacturers out there that advertise
the fact that they use Cherry keyswitches for reliability (or feel, or
the clicky sound).
Their official site is http://www.cherrycorp.com/ (popped up in English
here). According to their website, they started in Illinois in 1953, and
were acquired by a German firm in 2008.
>> US keyboards are QWERTY, German ones are QWERTZ... on a US layout, the Z
>> key on the bottom row beside the left shift.
>
> Exactly, and the picture of the klingon keyboard shows the layout as QWERTZ, since the letter Y is where you expected
> it..
>
> To complete this discussion, this is the layout of this klingon keyboard:
> Q w e r t (gh) u I o p
> a S D ng gh H j (e) l
> y ch v (ch) b n m
>
> The (gh) in the first row fills the letter Z
> The (e) in the second row fills the letter K
> (this should have been lower case {q})
> The (ch) in the third row fills the letter X
> this should have been {tlh}, and they messed up the correct order. Or is this a US layout?
I guess they're depicting a German layout for whatever reason.
Wikipedia has a nice diagram showing US and German layouts:
US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_United_States-NoAltGr.svg
German: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Germany.svg
I'm not sure what layout they're using...
> Quvar.
