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RE: "Update"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Mon Aug 4 17:41:59 2008

From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
To: "'tlhingan-hol@kli.org'" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 09:50:02 -0500
In-Reply-To: <000301c8f4ef$09ab1ff0$0800a8c0@juH.Seruqtuq.net>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org

Fiat Knox:
>> chay' tlhIngan Hol lo'lu'bogh tera'ngan mu' "update (v)"
>> ja'lu'?
>>
>> chaq "chu'qa'choHmoHlu'" mu' lo'lu'? mu' vIchIl.

DloraH:
> -qa' and -choH are both type-3 verb suffixes.
> A word can have only one suffix from each suffix type.

Fiat Knox was on the right track, he just needs to substitute the Type 4 suffix {-moH} (cause) for {-choH} (change in state):  *{chu'(qa')moH} "make new (again)", i.e. "renovate" or "modernize".

> Along with ter'eS suggestion, we also have the verbs /choH/ "change", and
> /Dub/ "improve".

WRT upgrading hardware or technology, a better word is {rach}:

  The verb {rach} has been translated variously as "invigorate", "fortify",
  and "strengthen" ... When used in reference to a person, the verb {rach}
  suggests an improvement in health; when used in reference to an inanimate
  object, say, a mechanical device or the hull of a ship, {rach} also
  implies improvement or betterment.  {rach} is to be distinguished from
  {tI'} "repair" in two ways:  (1) {tI'} is generally not applied to living
  beings;  (2) {tI'} suggests restoration to a previous state, not
  necessarily improvement.  {rach} is also to be distinguished from {Dub}
  "improve", which seems to be used primarily when what is being enhanced
  is of a more abstract nature (as when one improves or increases one's
  status, skill, understanding, etc.).            [st.klingon 10/20/98]


There are no example sentences with {rach} in canon, but we do have two for {Dub}:

SuvwI' vI' Dub naQvam 'ej ray' HopDaq bachlu'meH chuqna' ghurmoH naQvam
This serves to steady the aim of a warrior and increase the effective range for distance targeting. (S14)

DuraS tuq tlhIngan yejquv patlh luDub 'e' reH lunIDtaH DuraS be'nI'pu' lurSa' be'etor je.
The sisters of the House of Duras, Lursa and B'Etor, are constantly seeking a higher standing for the House of Duras within the Klingon High Council. (S26)


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons



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