[84551] in tlhIngan-Hol
Re: Klingon WOTD: ngIp (verb)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Boozer)
Wed Apr 30 12:41:38 2008
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:39:59 -0500
To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <BD7D55FC-BFE8-410F-8F4B-03D20D60B87F@embarqmail.com>
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Sangqar:
> > But now I'm not sure. It seems to me there are three possibilities:
> > qatlh SAO 'e' DaQub?
> > SAO qatlh 'e' DaQub?
> > SAO 'e' qatlh DaQub?
> > The first one seems the most natural, but I could make a case for the
> > second one, as well, since the first might be ambiguous. On the other
> > hand, if QAO is impossible, as most people on the list seem to agree,
> > the first could not be ambiguous. (The second sentence could still be
> > considered easier to parse, though.)
ghunchu'wI':
> Your first option is obviously wrong, since it puts the question word
> outside the sentence which is asking the question. Your second
> option follows the prescribed grammar. Your final one follows the
> example in Skybox card S26, {lurSa' be'etor je} "Lursa and B'Etor":
DuraS tuq tlhIngan yejquv patlh luDub 'e' reH lunIDtaH DuraS
be'nI'pu' lurSa' be'etor je.
The sisters of the House of Duras, Lursa and B'Etor, are constantly
seeking a higher standing for the House of Duras within the Klingon
High Council. [S26]
Doq:
>First, I wonder if it has not been established the {Qub} takes objects.
It has, at least the pronoun {'e'}:
The correct way to say "Do you think that...?" is [...] {'e'
DaQub'a'?} ({'e'} is "that", referring to something that precedes
it in the sentence or in the discussion; {DaQub'a'} is "do you
think it?"). [startrek.klingon 12/12/96]
All four words asked about [...] can be used in the construction
{S 'e' V}, where S is a sentence, {'e'} is the pronoun ("that")
which refers to a previous topic (in this case S), and V is one
of the verbs listed above (as well as some others). If the sentence
(S) is {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh} "you speak Klingon", it's OK to say
[...] {tlhIngan Hol Dajatlh 'e' vIQub} "I think that you speak
Klingon" [startrek.klingon 7/01/97]
--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
