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RE: Klingon WOTD: SanID (number)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Webley)
Tue Apr 22 02:55:40 2008

From: "Jonathan Webley" <jonathan.webley@uwclub.net>
To: <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:44:21 +0100
In-Reply-To: <6.2.1.2.2.20080421090759.027a0040@imap.uchicago.edu>
Errors-to: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org
Reply-to: tlhingan-hol@kli.org

In TKD, {maH}, {vatlh}, {SaD} and {SanID} are described as "special
number-forming elements", that is suffixes. The implication is that they are
not words in their own right. For example "Ten" is translated as {wa'maH}
and not {maH}.

But then there seem to be a few examples where they appear as words...

Confused?

Do these words have plurals? How would we say "thousands of things"?


> -----Original Message-----
> From: tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounce@kli.org] On
> Behalf Of Steven Boozer
> Sent: 21 April 2008 15:14
> To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org
> Subject: Re: Klingon WOTD: SanID (number)
> 
> 
> >This is the Klingon Word Of The Day for Monday, April 21, 2008.
> >
> >Klingon word:   SanID
> >Part of Speech: number
> >Definition:     thousand
> 
> Used in canon:
> 
>    vagh SanID ben buDbe' wamwI'pu'.
>    5,000 years ago, hunters were not lazy. (st.klingon 11/99)
> 
> TKD 53:  Both {SaD} and {SanID} are equally correct for "thousand", and
> both are used with roughly equal frequency. It is not known why this
> number
> alone has two variants.
> 
> Klingons may {SaD} and {SanID} with roughly equal frequency, but Okrand
> definitely prefers {SaD} in canon:
> 
>    qaStaHvIS wa' ram loS SaD Hugh SIjlaH qetbogh loD
>    4,000 throats may be cut in one night by a running man. TKD
> 
>    cha'SaD DeQ
>    2000 credits
> 
>    vaghSaD DeQ HInob
>    Give me 5,000 credits! PK
> 
>    chorghSaD qelI'qam HIvchuq'e' vInoH
>    Estimating attack range in 8,000 kellicams. ST5
> 
>    wa'SaD
>    one thousand STC:KLS
> 
>    vaghSaD wejvatlh loSmaH Soch
>    5,347 STC:KLS
> 
>    wejvatlh SochmaH vagh SaD cheb'a'mey ngI' Duj
>    Mass: 8.7 KT. KBoP
> 
>    SaD DIS poH
>    millennium (HQ 8.3:3)
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons





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